What is the end game of the Israeli State/Zionism?


Golah veNekhar

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That was the national Socialists, I think.
Both the National Socialists and the Polish along with the Brits all considered Madagascar.
 

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Would have been a bit of a challenge locating an ancient scroll which named Madagascar as the spiritual homeland. Mind you, the origins of some of the old testament scrolls are equally as dodgy.

It wouldn't have been the first time ancient wisdom was suddenly discovered when there was a market for it.
 

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Telstar is a British Israeli. He believes that Israeli Jews and Ulster Unionists are descended from a Biblical tribe. And they have a direct line to God- and can do no wrong!
I support and admire the beautiful Jewish religion by the way. It is the basis of the Judaeo-Christian religion which I am a follower.

You've posted that so often now, that I'd say you almost believe it!!! :roflmao:
 

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Would that have been 'the final solution' ?? :sneaky:

You and Lumpy should get a room... :sick:
No I see Jewish supremacism as spiritual disease and the cure for it is getting Jews open up there hearts to universal empathy and a love for truth which does happen however the less Jews interact with non-Jews the less likely it is to happen.
 

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No I see Jewish supremacism as spiritual disease and the cure for it is getting Jews open up there hearts to universal empathy and a love for truth which does happen however the less Jews interact with non-Jews the less likely it is to happen.
I'm not sure that anyone will be convinced by that waffling, meaningless tosh. :smile:
 

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I'm not sure that anyone will be convinced by that waffling, meaningless tosh. :smile:
You should listen to this interview with a Jew who used to be a member of AIPAC but through Goyim friends his heart was opened to feel empathy for non-Jews and he now supports the indigenous people of Palestine against their oppression and murder by Jewish supremacists. He explains things better than I can. He talks about how letting go of Jewish supremacism was so liberating and made him able to feel inner peace for the first time.

[video=youtube;F7LQUkGnOnU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7LQUkGnOnU[/video]
 

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If there is any comfort in being accused of being bigoted or anti-semitic for questioning Israeli political and social assumptions I suppose it can be found in the usual yells of 'self-hater' at any jewish man or woman who departs from or questions the official zionist line out of Tel Aviv.

The attempted bullying of jewish people who ask questions of the Tel Aviv hardline is worse than the usual cries of bigotry at anyone else.
 

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The reason the Jews crave a homeland for themselves is because they have been kicked from pillar to post for the last 2000 years. There is no need for an Islamic state as Muslims are numerous enough and have enough homelands that they don't need one.
The Jewish people left Jerusalem after the Romans sacked the Temple. They were not forced out. They left. Also if you are so concerned about Jewish people I invite you to donate to the Irish Jewish museum.
Irish Jewish Museum History of the Jewish Community in Ireland
 

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The Jewish people left Jerusalem after the Romans sacked the Temple. They were not forced out. They left. Also if you are so concerned about Jewish people I invite you to donate to the Irish Jewish museum.
Irish Jewish Museum History of the Jewish Community in Ireland
No Jewish people were forbidden to live in Jerusalem from 70 A.D. until the time Proto-Islamic Arab invasion. They were not however forced out of the country as such, Palestine remained genetically basically the same up to the arrival Zionist colonists in the early 20 th century.
 

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Israel to seek $250 billion compensation for Jews forced out of Libya, Tunisia, Iraq,
Syria, Egypt, Yemen, Iran, Morocco.

Yet the UN only speaks about Palestinians.

In March 2017 at UNHRC I asked: "Egypt, where are your Jews?"

Still waiting for a reply.

- Hillel Neuer.
 

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As to the reality? Well one thing to consider is that for all the undeniable problems, there is no place, today, where the Arabs are as free as in Israel.
Of course this is nonsense, but it is possible that you actually believe this, I would hope that you do not, however who knows? There are multiple ways that statement is fantasy- in fact in massive ways your average Jew, and Iran has a large Jewish community and Jewish members of Parliament, is better off and more free in the Islamic Iran of Iran than they are in Israel/Palestine. I have no doubt that will continue to be the case after the third Nabka because Iranians have long ethical tradition which is not to say that they like everyone else have not had their psycho moments. The fact that you have in your avatar the most unappealing photo you could find of a Jewish Israeli/Palestinian who demonstrated a steel like ethical will shows- well what does it show?

Zionism has with time become increasingly divorced from reality which is why I dread Bibi's departure because after him we will see something even worse than the Ben Gurion of fact as opposed to myth. After the killing fields of the Galilee will catch yourself on? When after the ethnically cleansing Eretz Israel collapses into a confusing and brutal civil war will you catch yourself on? Out of pride I suspect that you will continue to cheer the push towards the worst case scenario. And when it happens what will you say?
 

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in fact in massive ways your average Jew, and Iran has a large Jewish community and Jewish members of Parliament, is better off and more free in the Islamic Iran of Iran than they are in Israel/Palestine.
This is a lie. An utter scurrilous trope designed to denigrate Israel and by extension Jews. Bigot.

 

Golah veNekhar

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This is a lie. An utter scurrilous trope designed to denigrate Israel and by extension Jews. Bigot
I like Jews, while some of their cultural pathologies are indeed worrisome, that does not mean I am "anti" them. You give off about Muslim cultural pathologies- does not necessarily make you a bigot? Hard to say, it would all depend on how much reading you have done about and how actual human interaction with Muslims you have had. It is not a trope, it is reality- life is better for your average Jew in the Islamic Republic of Iran where people are well fed, rape is hardly an issue and life is laid back and kind. While yes during the Revolution and for two or three years after things were scary there for Jews they have long completely calmed down entirely.
 

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Interesting program on the aftermath of WW2 on Sunday night. "The savage peace 1945". Germany started the war, and lost. So they were punished. This punishment included the mass expulsion of ethnic Germans from Sudentan land, East Prussia, Poland. Up to 12 million German speakers literally ran out of their villages and farms in Eastern Europe. Also mass executions and beatings and torture on a large scale.
This film did not show humanity in good light.
 

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I like Jews, while some of their cultural pathologies are indeed worrisome, that does not mean I am "anti" them. You give off about Muslim cultural pathologies- does not necessarily make you a bigot? Hard to say, it would all depend on how much reading you have done about and how actual human interaction with Muslims you have had. It is not a trope, it is reality- life is better for your average Jew in the Islamic Republic of Iran where people are well fed, rape is hardly an issue and life is laid back and kind. While yes during the Revolution and for two or three years after things were scary there for Jews they have long completely calmed down entirely.
You clearly know nothing about Iran.
 

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You clearly know nothing about Iran.
Yes I am sure that even though I read Farsi and have visited the Islamic Republic of Iran twice I clearly know nothing about the country, especially compared to those who's knowledge of the country and the rest of the Muslim world comes from "doom porn" produced by out of control homosexuals and neurotically hysterical Zionist Jews.
 
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