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    Kieran Keohane's book Collision Cultures looks at the issue of suicide to a certain extent. He highlights the emergence of what he terms 'rurban' (rural and urban) communities - Middleton being a prime example - and 'glocal' contexts, where the local and global collide in a most confusing manner.

    He highlights too that suicide epidemics have always been a feature of societies going through rapid change, such as at the time of the Industrial Revolution in England. The sense of 'limitlessness' experienced by young people entering this new society leads to a state of anomie, of listlessness, of what Durkheim called "a state of unbridled selfishness". The breakdown of mechanical solidarity and its replacement by organic solidarity, allied with changing belief systems (the collapse of traditional institutions which offered authority and moral boundaries such as the Church, for example), render young people lost, and cut them adrift from older potential role-models.

    This is a rather crude synthesis of the sociological explanation currently doing the rounds at UCC.

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    Kieran Keohane's book Collision Cultures looks at the issue of suicide to a certain extent. He highlights the emergence of what he terms 'rurban' (rural and urban) communities - Middleton being a prime example - and 'glocal' contexts, where the local and global collide in a most confusing manner.

    He highlights too that suicide epidemics have always been a feature of societies going through rapid change, such as at the time of the Industrial Revolution in England. The sense of 'limitlessness' experienced by young people entering this new society leads to a state of anomie, of listlessness, of what Durkheim called "a state of unbridled selfishness". The breakdown of mechanical solidarity and its replacement by organic solidarity, allied with changing belief systems (the collapse of traditional institutions which offered authority and moral boundaries such as the Church, for example), render young people lost, and cut them adrift from older potential role-models.

    This is a rather crude synthesis of the sociological explanation currently doing the rounds at UCC.
    Interesting to an extent but ..... a load of old codswallop really.

    Suicide is not a new phenomonen and is somewhat indiscriminate.

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    Why do people commit suicide?


    Janey Mac, what a question. If we knew, then there might not be as many.

    I'm sure there must be ten times as many reasons for suicide as there are suicides.

    I can't help thinking that if equality were a norm, suicide would be less likely.
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    Spot on, David. And you might specifically state, equality for young men, since they make up the bulk of our national suicide rate.
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    Spot on, David. And you might specifically state, equality for young men, since they make up the bulk of our national suicide rate.
    You and david have my attention. 'Equality' in what sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asteroid
    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner
    Spot on, David. And you might specifically state, equality for young men, since they make up the bulk of our national suicide rate.
    You and david have my attention. 'Equality' in what sense?
    All possible senses.
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    dan neville doesnt proclaim to know although male disenfranchisement through the (obviously good) increased independence of women and closet homosexuality or incapacity to deal with issues relating to self and feeling and others tends to be very high up on the list of making people feel suicidal. Knowing what causes them tip over into taking their own life is known only to them and/or for those who think there is an after life, whoever watches over their afterlife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asteroid
    Quote Originally Posted by JCSkinner
    Spot on, David. And you might specifically state, equality for young men, since they make up the bulk of our national suicide rate.
    You and david have my attention. 'Equality' in what sense?
    All senses truly. Specifically, I'd look at educational performance of young men, and their ability to access their children as areas of inequality, though.
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    I don't know where to find the figures but apparatlly homosexuality is one of the lead causes of suicide.

    In genereal though many men and young males find their role in society far to constricting. I mean self expression for many is limited to the sports field outside that you are gay for pretty much any reason.
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    As my two year old daughter said to me yesterday when I took her away from a playground "its not fair".We are never going to have equality of anything like it.
    I hope this doesn't sound flippant -I have been touched by the suicide of someone close to me and I am still living with the effects.

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