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    Why would FG/FF/Garda cover up the murder of FG member Seamus Ludlow?
    Surely an inquiry needs to be set up to find the reason for this criminal act!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HEAVENHELPUS View Post
    Why would FG/FF/Garda cover up the murder of FG member Seamus Ludlow?
    Surely an inquiry needs to be set up to find the reason for this criminal act!
    Isn't it very strange that no one cares enough about this case even to debate it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zakalwe1 View Post
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    have you more info?
    As a FG head, I thought you would have loads? Anyways:

    The Seamus Ludlow Truth and Justice Campaign.

    "Seamus Ludlow was a well known member or supporter of the Fine Gael party that was at that time the major party in the coalition government in Dublin.

    It is believed that Seamus Ludlow had unwittingly accepted a lift offered by his killers, who did not know him. He may have been murdered simply because he was a Catholic, or because he was mistaken for or instead of another intended victim.

    This latter theory is now widely accepted. Indeed, the name of the actual intended victim, (now deceased) a native of County Down, then living in Dundalk, is now widely known. It appears that the UDR and Red Hand Commando killers were unable to find their man in Dundalk and were on their way home when they fell upon the unfortunate Seamus Ludlow.

    Whatever the reason for his foul murder, Seamus Ludlow's killers stayed free to kill again (and they did kill again!), even though they were known to the Gardai and the RUC (as early as 1977 if not before then), while the victim's good name was smeared with disgusting false allegations that he was murdered by the IRA because he was an informer.

    The Gardai went further by attempting to implicate members of the Ludlow family in this foul murder - even though they knew all along who the real killers were since a file naming the suspects was received from the RUC in 1979!."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Us View Post
    As a FG head, I thought you would have loads? Anyways:

    The Seamus Ludlow Truth and Justice Campaign.

    "Seamus Ludlow was a well known member or supporter of the Fine Gael party that was at that time the major party in the coalition government in Dublin.

    It is believed that Seamus Ludlow had unwittingly accepted a lift offered by his killers, who did not know him. He may have been murdered simply because he was a Catholic, or because he was mistaken for or instead of another intended victim.

    This latter theory is now widely accepted. Indeed, the name of the actual intended victim, (now deceased) a native of County Down, then living in Dundalk, is now widely known. It appears that the UDR and Red Hand Commando killers were unable to find their man in Dundalk and were on their way home when they fell upon the unfortunate Seamus Ludlow.

    Whatever the reason for his foul murder, Seamus Ludlow's killers stayed free to kill again (and they did kill again!), even though they were known to the Gardai and the RUC (as early as 1977 if not before then), while the victim's good name was smeared with disgusting false allegations that he was murdered by the IRA because he was an informer.

    The Gardai went further by attempting to implicate members of the Ludlow family in this foul murder - even though they knew all along who the real killers were since a file naming the suspects was received from the RUC in 1979!."


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    This foul murder of an innocent man ,apparently hitching a lift home,is in its own way similar to the Mountbatten murder and must be roundly condemned---nobody has been brought to book for itdespite extensive enquiries and a thorough examination ofthe events surrounding it by Judge Barron----no political cause justifies this kind of activity .

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    Alleging a FG cover up without providing any evidence. The second smear thread like this you have started in as many weeks!

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    As the family have stated the names and status of the killers were known to the RUC and Gardai for decades.

    It seems clear that at a certain level within the Gardai and their political controllers a very political and criminal decision was taken to deliberately mislead the family. In fact as the family have stated there seems to have been a deliberate tactic by the Gardai to divide the family and turn it in on itself.

    As the family sought justice and those responsible to be held to account it was felt best that the killers be protected and the family lied to. Lied to with the extent that justice was denied.
    This whole state of affairs could not have taken place without considerable political cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HEAVENHELPUS View Post
    Why would FG/FF/Garda cover up the murder of FG member Seamus Ludlow?
    Surely an inquiry needs to be set up to find the reason for this criminal act!
    You see, the difference between this and the crimes of your party is that
    1. the evidence about whether it happened or not isn't generally accepted by all legitimate actors and
    2. the terrorists themselves aren't now in charge of the party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myk View Post
    Alleging a FG cover up without providing any evidence. The second smear thread like this you have started in as many weeks!
    I dont believe for a second that there was a Fine Gael cover up.

    I do think though that the tendency of some, its only some, Fine gaelers to focus solely on Republicanism as a threat means that people like Seamus Ludlow, a Fine Gael supporter, are ignored irrelevancies.

    Was there a cover up directed by FG. No i seriously doubt that.

    But the murder of people like Ludlow were too easily ignored or judged not important by some Fine Gaelers who became fixated on the IRA to the extent that they ignored all other wrong doings.

    Brendan Mcgahon was the Fine Gael TD at the time for the area.

    He knew the Ludlows.

    Seamus Ludlow even did gardening work for him.

    yet when the man who gardened for Brendan McGahon, Fine gael TD, was murdered Brendan thought it not rational that Loyalists could do it. Ignoring the fact that the loyalists were murdering people and bombing the south already.

    Some Fine Gaelers are so fixated with republicans being a threat they ignore all other things.

    Brenda Mcgahon would appear to be one Fine gael ex TD who left his own bias colour his perception of the murder of a man who did gardening for him.

    Even the republican hating journalist Ed Moloney was able to impartially look at the murder.

    Why were people like McGahon left prosper in the party. irish citizens were being murdered by loyalists, and their allies, and yet that was only an opportunity for people like him to continue to oppose republicans.

    Fanaticism is a curse and its something that affects all parties. Et in arcadia ego - even Fine gael had its share.

    Can any Fine Gael here square up and say that yeah McGahon was wrong. You can still oppose Republicans but why not oppose British/loyalist attacks as well.
    Last edited by Duth Ealla; 18th August 2009 at 12:26 PM.

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