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    Default Irish tea drinkers have extra fluoride problems

    When are Irish politicians going to face up to the fluoride problem and stop fluoridation?

    The latest scientific evidence comes from the far east, reported here.
    Japanese researchers have studied and verified the presence of fluorine in tea beverages, saying prolonged consumption of the drinks could weaken bones.
    The Japanese and Chinese know a thing or two about tea, and fluoride. Meanwhile, the Irish drink tea, and fluoride, no questions asked.

    Actually, there has been evidence around for a long time that tea can contain very high levels of fluoride. See this article, and this list of F content in foods and drinks. There is also evidence that the average fluoride content of tea has been going up significantly. This is attributed to the chemicals used in tea production and industrial pollution. Most agri-chemicals are high in fluoride.

    Some basic research and simple arithmetic show that many Irish people are ingesting dangerous amounts of fluoride.

    At least 40% of Irish children exhibit dental fluorosis, the first visible sign of fluoride poisoning. That excess fluoride intake is mainly due to water fluoridation. As the children grow up they get even more fluoride – from tea among other things.

    Fluoridation is a public health problem, and the only one that can be solved overnight. Environment Minister John Gormley knows this. In early 2007, as chairman of the Oireachtas Health Committee, Gormley was responsible for the Committee's report on fluoridation, which was about to be published. Since the report was calling for an end to fluoridation, the fluoridators moved to stop it, and of course they found Fianna Fáil willing to help them out, with Committee member Dr Jimmy Devins acting as chief stopper.

    Through the wonders of the Internet, you can read the suppressed report, here.

    There's more about the background events in this Irish Times report.

    If you drink tea, and value your health:
    • Buy organic tea.
    • Brew it with unfluoridated water.
    • Add milk – it binds the fluoride so that less fluoride is absorbed by your body.
    15 Jan 2001 -- Fine Gael pledged to end fluoridation because of "serious health concerns".

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    I also thing they should take dihydrogen monoxide out of the supply too, after all, such a chemical is found in acid rain, can cause burns, corrodes metals, has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients and in some extreme cases, cause death...

    Hell, these fat cats just want it in the water supply so they can have easy access to it so they can use it as an industrial solvent and coolant and in many forms of cruel animal research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Some Random Guy View Post
    I also thing they should take dihydrogen monoxide out of the supply too, after all, such a chemical is found in acid rain, can cause burns, corrodes metals, has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients and in some extreme cases, cause death...

    Hell, these fat cats just want it in the water supply so they can have easy access to it so they can use it as an industrial solvent and coolant and in many forms of cruel animal research.
    Nothing worse than plagarism.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw]YouTube - Penn And Teller Get Hippies To Sign Water Banning Petition[/ame]

    And you didn't even credit Penn and Teller.

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    That's so funny. It puts petitions right up there with phone in polls as things to be taken seriously.

    But who hasn't stolen the odd joke? No need to embarrass the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermanpolitician View Post
    Nothing worse than plagarism.
    I suppose you could say I'm only copying what Fine Gael figured out years ago. See, for example, this eight years ago:
    FINE GAEL has pledged to end the controversial compulsory practice of adding fluoride to all drinking water because of "serious health concerns".
    Long before that, Richie Ryan was an expert on the (il)legalities of fluoridation, and more recently Avril Doyle and Olivia Mitchell did good work on the issue. But of course all those people are out of the picture now and the current crop of Fine Gaelers are simply useless, afraid to dip their toes in the water.
    15 Jan 2001 -- Fine Gael pledged to end fluoridation because of "serious health concerns".

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    Soubreasauts, who exactly are the "fluoridators" you speak of? Is it one company, or several? What is it worth to them financially to fluoridate our water, do you know? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TradCat View Post
    Supremepolitician

    That's so funny. It puts petitions right up there with phone in polls as things to be taken seriously.

    But who hasn't stolen the odd joke? No need to embarrass the guy.
    Does anyone who tells a joke credit the author ?

    Except it's not a joke. It's the perfect riposte to Soubresaut's pseudo-science and scaremongering.

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    I read that the reason the fluoridation was introduced was that fluoride is an aluminium by product and the industry in the US was such a powerful lobby that the government allowed for the fluoridation of the water supply. the argument being that it was good for teeth(but bad for every other part of the body which wasn't mentioned) And true to form the rest of the world followed suit for a time anyway. does anyone know how true this is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermanpolitician View Post
    Nothing worse than plagarism.

    And you didn't even credit Penn and Teller.
    It's funny as they plagiarised it from someone else and didn't credit the...

    Can't think who off hand, but I will post it when I remember...

    No need to embarrass the guy.
    Would take a lot more to embarrass me...esp on the internet :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsAnneThrope View Post
    Soubreasauts, who exactly are the "fluoridators" you speak of? Is it one company, or several?
    The law is the problem (Fluoridation of Water Supplies Act, 1960).
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