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    Talking Catholic fascist party

    Listening to Pat Kenny the other day on holiday, I heard a fascinating piece about a Catholic Fascist Party of the '30's-'40's in Ireland. It was called Ailthíri na hAiséirge and it had up to 22 elected members. It had the backing of all Irelands anti-semites like Ernest Blythe and Oliver J.
    The book about it is called " Architects of the Resurrection ...Ailtíri na hAiséirge and the Fascist New Order in Ireland" by Ray M. Douglas.

    This is the first time I've ever heard of this outfit. Why ? Are people embarasssed?
    With 22 elected members it must have had a large following.... presumably the fathers and mothers of this generation of posters on P.ie must have either known or even voted for them!!
    Who knew?!

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    Was this O'Duffy's crowd? The organisation that recruited men to go and fight for Franco.
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    its news to me that it had 22 elected members ,thought it had none ,the party literature sold in its hundreds of thousands but the party became extinct in a short time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peader odonnell View Post
    its news to me that it had 22 elected members ,thought it had none ,the party literature sold in its hundreds of thousands but the party became extinct in a short time.
    Elected to what might be the question - councils, corporations, maybe? Fairly sure not Dail. Interested to learn more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Caped Cod View Post
    Was this O'Duffy's crowd? The organisation that recruited men to go and fight for Franco.
    its leader was Gearoid OCuinnegain ,an out an out Fascist ,I believe ODuffy was dead by then. Its paper limped on an was on sale in Dublin in the seventies ,a totally fascist rag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didimus View Post
    Elected to what might be the question - councils, corporations, maybe? Fairly sure not Dail. Interested to learn more.
    It got a derisory vote in the only Dail election it contested.

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    Got this description of the book from ehm.. the tesco website!
    About the book
    In the early 1940s many people in Ireland expected Nazi Germany to win the Second World War. According to secret Irish government assessments, most wanted her to. After the fall of France and with Britain trembling on the brink of defeat, democracy seemed likely to disappear from Europe. But if this happened, how should newly-independent Ireland - a country that had remained neutral in the war - respond to what appeared to be an emerging post-democratic world order? Gearoid Cuinneagain, a young pro-Axis activist, had an answer. In 1942 he founded Ailtiri na hAiseirghe ('Architects of the Resurrection'), a fascist movement that aimed to destroy the infant Irish democracy and replace it with a one-party totalitarian state. But Ailtiri na hAiseirghe was no Nazi imitator. Rather, it aimed at something far more ambitious: the fusion of totalitarianism and Christianity that would make Ireland a 'missionary-ideological state' wielding global influence in the postwar era. Supported by idealistic youths and mainstream politicians like Ernest Blythe, Oliver J. Flanagan and Dan Breen - and scrutinized anxiously by British and American intelligence - Aiseirghe won several seats in the 1945 local government elections. But a devastating split, just as it seemed poised to make a political breakthrough, reversed its fortunes and put an end to Cuinneagain's once-promising career as a would-be Irish fuhrer. Architects of the Resurrection casts an uncomfortable light on the popularity of anti-democratic, anti-Semitic and extremist ideas in wartime Ireland. Students of Irish history and of comparative fascism will find many new insights in this book.

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    More info here Ailtirí na h-Aiséirí [Archive] - Irish Nationalism
    Seems TG4 did documentaryon this.
    Also seems that Sean South of Garryowen fame was also a supporter.
    Party slogan - We need a Salazar!
    Indeed. It must be progress that the only Portugese person to evoke such emotion today was recently interviewed about his cosmetic regime.

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    Yet another skeleton from our wartime closet. Why do we never learn any of this in school?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedmethodist View Post
    It had the backing of all Irelands anti-semites like Ernest Blythe and Oliver J.
    Ernest Blythe strikes me as one of the tragic losses of the early history of our State; along with Michael Collins. Both fiscally conservative, well educated men - what a pity one died so young and one became a fellow traveller of Irish pseudo-fascism.

    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedmethodist View Post
    This is the first time I've ever heard of this outfit. Why ? Are people embarasssed?
    With 22 elected members it must have had a large following....
    I'm sorry? With how many hundreds of elected seats across the country back then, how could twenty-two be considered a "large following"? Ireland proved itself absolutely immune to fascism as an ideology. Probably in large part due to the Catholic Church making sure it had no competitors for the nation's hearts and minds. The history of the Church in pre-WWII Europe is very interesting. The divide between the tenacious democratic drive of the German Centre Party on the one hand and the willing subservience to National Socialism on the other of many formerly Catholic political elites, especially in Eastern Europe, proves how broad a Church it was then - let alone now. And this is without mentioning Pius XII, Eugene Pacelli; the most dubious pope of modern times. But we've all read Hitler's Pope.
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