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    From The Irish TImes:
    • The number in employment rose to 2,017,000 as of last May, exceeding two million for the first time in the State's history, writes Marc Coleman, Economics Editor.

      Figures released yesterday by the Central Statistics Office (CSO) also show the rise in employment continues to be driven by a surge in immigrants, who now account for one in 10 people in the workforce.

      The Government welcomed the figures as a vindication of its employment policies, but analysts have questioned whether the growth in jobs is sustainable.

      Meanwhile, a separate survey by Chambers Ireland suggests that employment growth has remained strong in the months since May.

      According to the CSO's latest Quarterly National Household Survey, 87,800 jobs were created between May 2005 and May 2006. Over the same period, the number of immigrants in Ireland rose by some 86,900, according to CSO estimates of population and migration, also published yesterday. The construction sector contributed 20,300 new jobs, of which 10,700 were filled by foreign nationals. This makes it the main driver of employment growth and the biggest employer of foreign nationals.
    While the question of migrant workers, and immigration in general, tends to be contentious, growing employment can only be good for the ecomony. The extra spending generated has a knock-on effect which shoould allow the growth to continue in the coming months.
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    Not so good for the thousands of Irish workers displaced from manufacturing and hotel jobs. Not to mention school leavers who are unable to get job at all.

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    What seems to be happening judging by the discussion on "Tonight" with Tom McGurk last night on RTE Radio 1 is that we are not being selective enough about who we are letting in. We are letting in everyone from Poland etc. so they come in and build houses (because many don't have the skills to do much else) and that maintains an overdependence on the construction sector which is already dangerously dominant in our economy. What happens when prices reach unaffordability for large proportions of us and demand falls, leading to tens of thousands of job losses? We need to be more selective in terms of bringing in people to help gear the economy away from total domination by one sector. And it's better too if where possible we concentrate on upskilling Irish workers rather than importing people who may contribute ultimately to keeping the Irish unemployed on the dole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popper
    Not so good for the thousands of Irish workers displaced from manufacturing and hotel jobs. Not to mention school leavers who are unable to get job at all.
    As one of those people who was recently 'displaced' from a hotel job, trust me: I'm ok with it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear
    Quote Originally Posted by popper
    Not so good for the thousands of Irish workers displaced from manufacturing and hotel jobs. Not to mention school leavers who are unable to get job at all.
    As one of those people who was recently 'displaced' from a hotel job, trust me: I'm ok with it!
    Perhaps you are if you are doing something better. I doubt that the workers displaced by Doyle Concrete along with the thousands of bar persons, cleaners etc - who do not have better options - share your equanamity.

    There is also the fact, often overlooked and obscured to a certain extent, that a lot of the type of jobs being taken by immigrants including hotel, bars, cleaning, labouring were the very jobs that traditionally were taken by people who left school with poor qualifications or who for other reasons went for such jobs. The fact that youth unemployment is rising would confirm this.

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    it doesn't mention anywhere in it about job displacement.
    Jobs were created and filled, simple really
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    AHHHH THEY'RE TAKIN OVER! etc etc...

    Our next Taoseach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by forest
    it doesn't mention anywhere in it about job displacement.
    Jobs were created and filled, simple really

    Maybe you should read it again

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    If/When the construction industry goes bust in a property bubble burst or downturn...we will have alot of pissed off unemployed immigrants around...
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    Quote Originally Posted by popper
    Not so good for the thousands of Irish workers displaced from manufacturing and hotel jobs. Not to mention school leavers who are unable to get job at all.

    Then why isn't unemployment rising?
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