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    There's a very good article in today's Irish Times which says "Israelis feel they have completely lost the battle in the media. Ruth Zach, who will shortly be leaving the Israeli Embassy in Dublin, asks "What will it take for Europeans to ask the Palestinians also be held accountable?" It's a fair question

    Israelis feel they have 'completely lost the battle' in the media - The Irish Times - Wed, Jul 22, 2009

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    Opinions in Europe are of little significance as long as the prospect of and economic boycott can be held off

    Of much greater worry to Israel is that (more slowly) they are also losing the argument , and power and infleuence in the US

    Sharpevile happened in 1960 causing worldwide public outrage yet it took 20 years for the political classes to stop supporting South Africa's apartheid regime..... I believe last years Lebanon war (or maybe this years Gaza slaughter) will be seen as Israel's "Sharpeville moment"

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Chaim View Post
    There's a very good article in today's Irish Times which says "Israelis feel they have completely lost the battle in the media. Ruth Zach, who will shortly be leaving the Israeli Embassy in Dublin, asks "What will it take for Europeans to ask the Palestinians also be held accountable?" It's a fair question

    Israelis feel they have 'completely lost the battle' in the media - The Irish Times - Wed, Jul 22, 2009
    Yanshuf is winning it on the internet, however.

    Seriously, it's like wondering why the regime in South Africa got all the bad press while the anti-apartheid momement was on the side of the angels.
    Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!

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    Who was complaining recently about people numerous threads on the Palestinian occupation?

    I suppose you didn't notce this one Settlers destroy trees on West Bank - The Irish Times - Wed, Jul 22, 2009 on the same page, it's got this great line:

    Militant settlers, who often act independently, in defiance of the official settler leadership, confirmed that a “price tag” policy exists under which revenge attacks will be carried out against Palestinians every time the government acts to remove outposts.
    Really advanced in evolutionary terms, aren't you lot?

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    Israel doesn't help itself by aggressively counter spinning against any vaguely critical reporting and blindly denying any wrongdoing ..ever.

    Considering the money they spend on media manipulation they are not getting much bang for their buck.

    Israel purport to be a modern liberal western democracy thus are they held to a higher standard than terrorists like hamas.. simply put I expect better from Israel.
    "If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor", Desmond Tutu

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    Quote Originally Posted by brughahaha View Post
    Opinions in Europe are of little significance as long as the prospect of and economic boycott can be held off

    Of much greater worry to Israel is that (more slowly) they are also losing the argument , and power and infleuence in the US

    Sharpevile happened in 1960 causing worldwide public outrage yet it took 20 years for the political classes to stop supporting South Africa's apartheid regime..... I believe last years Lebanon war (or maybe this years Gaza slaughter) will be seen as Israel's "Sharpeville moment"
    good man your right there we should boycot the basterds til they leave them poor people in the gaza strip alone!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Chaim View Post
    There's a very good article in today's Irish Times which says "Israelis feel they have completely lost the battle in the media. Ruth Zach, who will shortly be leaving the Israeli Embassy in Dublin, asks "What will it take for Europeans to ask the Palestinians also be held accountable?" It's a fair question

    Israelis feel they have 'completely lost the battle' in the media - The Irish Times - Wed, Jul 22, 2009
    acountable for what??? building there houses under the isralei bombs???

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    Well Hamas suicide bombers killed over 500 Israeli civilians. These attacks were usually in buses, bus stations, cafés and night clubs. Since 2001 they have launched over 8000 rocket and mortar attacks against Israeli towns and cities. The breakdown is...
    2001 250
    2002 300
    2003 400
    2004 1100
    2005 420 (This is the year Israel withdrew from Gaza)
    2006 1000 (This is the year Hamas took over Gaza)
    2007 1500
    2008 2300 (this was in the first five months leading up to the ceasefire).

    Now as you can see that since Hamas took over in Gaza, after Israel pulled out, the rocket and mortar attacks increased dramatically. They also kidnapped an Israeli soldier and nobody knows if he's alive or dead or what condition he's being held in. And yet, so far in this thread nobody holds Hamas, who were elected by the palestinian people, responsible. Those rockets and morter attacks and suicide bomb attacks are completely ignored or forgotten about and Israel is being seen as the bad guys. I think the question 'what will it take for Europeans to ask the Palestinians to also be held accountable?' is a fair question. Israel's offensive in Gaza didn't just happen for no reason. The ceasefire was ending in December 2008 and Hamas said they were not going to extend it. They were already planning more kidnappings and they were digging tunnels into Israel during the ceasefire with the aim of kidnapping more Israelis.

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    Israel lost the argument in 1948.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stendec View Post
    acountable for what??? building there houses under the isralei bombs???
    Funnily enough it was the russian english tv channel RT who reported on Hamas chasing down and killing their PLO opponents after the Gaza cease fire. Irish and Uk tv seemed to have avoided the issue.

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