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    Question Netanyahu making peace impossible?

    Its sad news today. Netanyahu, Israeli PM, has said the settlements in the Westbank are to be allowed to expand, to accomodate "natural growth", his words.

    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Netanyahu says settlements can expand

    This is not only a clear slap in the face for Fatah, who control the Westbank, but more suprisingly, Barak Obama, who dicussed the issue with Netanyahu only a few days ago.

    The new Whitehouse has already given their support to the Westbank government and promised to play their part in getting the road map back on track. But Netanyahu it seems is determined not to engage in the roadmap or any workable peace process.

    How is the US administration to repsond to this? Especially if US citizens and soldiers are put in harms way due to Netanyahus self serving political agenda?

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    It underlines that Israel is a colonial-power and an Aparteid state, against which UN sanctions should be imposed. But don't expect them to be, given the Zionist control of American policy in the Middle East, and therefore over the US veto at the UNSC. The Zionist influence over German foreign policy (based on bending to Israel's every demand to prove it's no longer anti-semitic), will also stymie any chance of EU sanctions. The expansion of the Zionist Reich will continue for the time being. In that context, a consumer-boycott is the best we can do to express our disapproval.

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    Perhaps Obama's discussions included a "as is" message. Hence the horrible racist leader of the most racist 'democracy' in the world can feel confident in stating that the colonial takeover of the west bank can continue.

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    'Peace' was fully possible during the era of Apartheid in South Africa, all the blacks had to do was accept their status, take whatever meagre opportunities are open to them (shining shoes, cleaning toilets etc) and not cause violence... peace can exist in such a way... which is why the goal in the Middle East must not just be expressed as merely a search for 'peace', it must be defined as a quest for justice and equality too.

    I have no doubt that the 'peace' spoken about by Netanyahu or H Clinton is of the apartheid South African kind, with no justice, no equality and the settlements are just one of the most egregious proofs that i am right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thranduil View Post
    'Peace' was fully possible during the era of Apartheid in South Africa, all the blacks had to do was accept their status, take whatever meagre opportunities are open to them (shining shoes, cleaning toilets etc) and not cause violence... peace can exist in such a way... which is why the goal in the Middle East must not just be expressed as merely a search for 'peace', it must be defined as a quest for justice and equality too.

    I have no doubt that the 'peace' spoken about by Netanyahu or H Clinton is of the apartheid South African kind, with no justice, no equality and the settlements are just one of the most egregious proofs that i am right.
    The Ziontologists are a bit late arriving on this thread.

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    Well,
    they're trying to ban mourning the Nakba.
    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Anger over Palestinian Nakba ban proposal

    And ban citizenship from those who refuse to swaer loyalty to "the state" (not, the people, rather the state.. Putting the idea of the state above the people, it's not exactly new now is it)
    Lieberman's party to seek cabinet okay for loyalty oath - Haaretz - Israel News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thac0man View Post
    Its sad news today. Netanyahu, Israeli PM, has said the settlements in the Westbank are to be allowed to expand, to accomodate "natural growth", his words.

    The term used was "natural growth" within the boundaries of existing settlements. The word "expansion" suggests something else entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    It underlines that Israel is a colonial-power and an Aparteid state, against which UN sanctions should be imposed. But don't expect them to be, given the Zionist control of American policy in the Middle East, and therefore over the US veto at the UNSC. The Zionist influence over German foreign policy (based on bending to Israel's every demand to prove it's no longer anti-semitic), will also stymie any chance of EU sanctions. The expansion of the Zionist Reich will continue for the time being. In that context, a consumer-boycott is the best we can do to express our disapproval.
    Apartheid state my h*le!. Apartheid is rampant in the middle east alright insofar as Jews aren't allowed to worship at the temple mount in case it offends Muslim sensibilities. Jews aren't allowed live in Ramallah, Jenin, Jerico etc. Arabs made a law that if an Arab sells land to a Jew he can be executed. Dreadful apartheid! No Jewish building in Jordan, no Jewish marriages in Lybia, no Jews allowed practice their religion in Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon etc. Egypt is planning to revoke citizenship for Egyptians married to Israelis. Now that's all apartheid.

    I'll tell you what apartheid is. It's the misogynistic, anti-gay, anti-Christian, anti-Jew culture that's rampant all over the Arab world. The Arab/Muslim brethren are the true purveyors of apartheid throughout the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Chaim View Post
    The Arab/Muslim brethren are the true purveyors of apartheid throughout the world.

    Yep. Just as soon as they are in a position to bring it about.

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    Obama should start linking military aid to progress in the peace process. That might focus minds even more in Israel and Egypt.
    "Unless you are an absolute pacifist, then you acknowledge that there are times when taking up arms is appropriate."
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