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    Stochastic Geometry

    Is the reasoning behind this correct?
    Electrical capacity=electrical generation
    In the understanding of SirCharles Post #573 "Bloomberg...renewables"

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    Quote Originally Posted by riven View Post
    Stochastic Geometry

    Is the reasoning behind this correct?
    I wouldn't be surprised - the language in the Bill is conveniently vague.

    It would be impossible to police though.

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    This is the dream internet service providers have i.e. to turn the internet into a fee payng vehicle where you would have to pay a fee to access the most popular sites like You Tube And Red Tube.Pie will obviously remain free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draiocht23 View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised - the language in the Bill is conveniently vague.

    It would be impossible to police though.
    No more than the licence, I think. Every broadband connection runs through an ISP, so the state need only demand access to subscriber records. Any and every broadband connection is capable or TV over Internet, so they simply slap a 160 fee on everyone who has a broadband connection and no TV licence.

    It's probably to cover against the trend of cable companies offering TV-over-Internet, while subscribers say "but I have no TV".
    Never let the best be the enemy of the good.

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    Irish Internet Tax.

    Nail in the coffin of the knowledge economy.

    Take a bow Minister Ryan and your Green Party.

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    That's fascism

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    Why not tax people for inhaling air,or having a gravity tax,what a f uc kin joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibis View Post
    No more than the licence, I think. Every broadband connection runs through an ISP, so the state need only demand access to subscriber records. Any and every broadband connection is capable or TV over Internet, so they simply slap a 160 fee on everyone who has a broadband connection and no TV licence.

    It's probably to cover against the trend of cable companies offering TV-over-Internet, while subscribers say "but I have no TV".
    I don't think the State can demand subscriber records. Unless they change a law that would allow them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibis View Post
    No more than the licence, I think. Every broadband connection runs through an ISP, so the state need only demand access to subscriber records. Any and every broadband connection is capable or TV over Internet, so they simply slap a 160 fee on everyone who has a broadband connection and no TV licence.

    It's probably to cover against the trend of cable companies offering TV-over-Internet, while subscribers say "but I have no TV".
    And someone must pay GRyan's inflated salary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riven View Post
    Stochastic Geometry

    Is the reasoning behind this correct?
    Nope, it makes assumptions about the definition of a broadcasting service.

    The relevant definition is

    “broadcasting service” means a service which comprises a compilation
    of programme material of any description and which is transmitted,
    relayed or distributed by means of an electronic communications
    network, directly or indirectly for simultaneous or near-
    simultaneous reception by the general public, whether that material
    is actually received or not
    , and where the programmes are provided
    in a pre-scheduled and linear order, but does not include:
    (a) a service provided for viewing in a non-linear manner
    where each viewer chooses a programme from a catalogue of programmes, or
    (b) other audio and audiovisual services provided by way of
    the Internet;
    This excludes all on-demand services. Some people have suggested streaming content such as Dail TV still qualifies, but it is not streamed to the general public whether the material is received or not. They would have to be sending the content to every Irish Internet address to come under the definition of a broadcast service.

    Somebody treats legislation as loose English and comes to the wrong conclusion. Aren't blogs great?
    Good riddance.

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