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    I'v heard these kids refuse participation in any government...ie are waiting for a majority or nothing.

    Is this true and are the nuts?

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    Its easy to have standards when you have nothing to stand for.
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    I'm lost.

    How do they expect to make an impact without going into government?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladstone
    I'v heard these kids refuse participation in any government...ie are waiting for a majority or nothing.

    Is this true and are the nuts?
    More nuts than you can possibly imagine and so closeminded they make the SWP look open.

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    I looked at their site on the pensions, and it says "no cuts, no new tax on workers" so I thought? What print the money or something...no...predicably increase corpo tax to 50% ...how original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladstone
    I'm lost.

    How do they expect to make an impact without going into government?
    It's because parliamentary policies is just one strand of an overall strategy of campaigning (including involvement in industrial disputes and local issues like the water charges) which will radicalise the industrial working classes and bring about a proletarian revolution.

    Or something like that.

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    They don't want to participate in government because they feel being in government would comprimise their position. They'd have to start doing the government's bidding instead of furthering their own agenda etc.

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    Social Democracy is not defunct Socialism is tho.

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    Uncle Joe will lose working class support now as he has openly sided with backing the so called Asylum Seekers.

    That will certainly lose him votes.

    Also while he has pointed out rightly that foreign companies are exploiting their own workers here that in and of itself will not gain him a single vote.

    The more time he devotes to the perceived rights of foreigners the less he will have to focus on the rights of the Irish Working Class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladstone
    Social Democracy is not defunct Socialism is tho.
    Social Democracy was defunct from the moment someone said: 'Hey, let's be social democrats.' It is based on the notion of staggering idiocy that capitalism can be managed and directed for the good of the people and putting the people before profit when capitalism as an economic system refuses such.

    Since the abandonment of Socialism (Though in truth some were never more than rhetorically committed to it) by the main social democratic European parties and unions we have sen the steady erosion of the left position and the increasing dominance of neo-liberalism. The European Union, initially founded as a social democratic project to restrain capitalism has been an abject failure in that regard.

    Social Democracy is the political philosophy of cowards, careerists and people who have no politics but want to 'help the poor people'. It is capitalism with a human face, nothing more, nothing less, and an ideology of defeatism.

    And think little of him though I might Catalpa, Joe didn't get into politics to get votes from morons, he went in to pursue his political objectives and to do what he believed was right regardless of whether it was popular.

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