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Thread: Iraq-getting better?

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    Anyone here think the situation is getting better in Iraq? As you can see today, a big success against the insurgents, and as you can see Iraqi forces were at the fore of the attack. Also, in Iraq, civilians used their arms to attack insurgents and the number of 'spectacular attacks' has fallen in recent weeks.


    BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- After a two-hour firefight, Iraqi forces and U.S. helicopters captured an insurgent base north of Baghdad, killing 85 rebels, U.S. and Iraqi military officials said Wednesday.

    "A previous safe haven for planning attacks has been removed," a U.S. military official said of Tuesday's battle.

    Although the Iraqi military said it killed 85 insurgents during the firefight, the U.S. military said the number of rebel dead was "undetermined."

    Seven Iraqi police commandos with the Ministry of Interior died in the fighting and six were wounded, the U.S. military said.

    The U.S. military said it had lost no American troops in the battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrier
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    Seems a bit dodge. The Americans didn't give a figure for insurgent casualties but did for Iraqi security.

    "Also, in Iraq, civilians used their arms to attack insurgents"

    Have you got a link to that?

    "the number of 'spectacular attacks' has fallen in recent weeks."

    Yeh, I think you're right there. There's been more of a focus on attacking on Shi'tes rather than US. Heading for civil war if what's going on now couldn't be considered that.

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    From BBC

    Also in the capital, witnesses said shopkeepers fought a gun battle with insurgents on Tuesday, killing three of them.
    I think the situation is greatly improving. The decrease in 'spectaculars' isn't the result of some cunning plan, it's a result in a decrease in support following the elections. The kind of blows that are being dealt to the insurgency are ones based on intelligence, intelligence that can only be got through public support. 18-24, the US will have almost fully withdrawn, with losses stopped at around 2,200.

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    Balls. Over 80 attacks a day. Kill rate amongst Yanks, average 2 per day. The fact that the Insurgents are holding training camps within Iraq, with dozens of recruits says it all. The high death rate, (allegedly) came from aerial bombardment after the Iraqi collaboraters retreated. The only difference between now and last year is that media interest is diminishing, hence people think it's all quiet. 2 years ago Rumsfeld described the Resistance as " a couple of dead enders". Now, according to Time magazine, they number over 20,000. American hamfistedness and thuggery has ensured the Resistance, plenty of recruits for generations to come.
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    God they're ************************ed if they go into Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ireland2004
    God they're ************************ed if they go into Iran.
    Not if there's Sinn Fein types in Iran, prepared to condemn Resistance, and administer American rule.
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    Danny wrote:
    The decrease in 'spectaculars' isn't the result of some cunning plan, it's a result in a decrease in support following the elections.
    As Carrier said, the decrease in attacks on Americans has been replaced by an increase in attacks on Iraqis.

    If there is a drop in support for the resistance since the elections, its probably cos the Iraqis have elected people who want the US to leave. If this doesn't work and the Americans dont show any sign of leaving, no doubt support for the resistance will rise even more.

    As for whether the situation is getting worse? Well since the invasion and occupation child malnutrition has doubled and child mortality has tripled. Over half the country is unemployed.

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    Deputy Dawg I like to know where you got that information because I have serious doubt's about it.
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