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    To anyone interested in referenced figures for future demographic trends, as well as referenced opinion poll surveys of attitudes within the Muslim community and native populations, these reports make essential reading.

    If you are apprehensive about Muslim numbers in Europe, you might be quite glum after a perusal. On the otherhand, if you're rather sanguine or nonchalant over all the furore, these will either change your mind or at the very least, make you pause for a while. They are professionally produced and in my view, objective.

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    Sir,

    You are a fruitcake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman
    Sir,

    You are a fruitcake.

    With regards,

    Batman
    were would the PC brigade around here be without the ad hominem attack!! 8) (bad enough as a last resort, but as a first , sad ).
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    Astonishing. How could Muslims be just 3.5% of the Belgian population (Table 2) and yet a quarter of those 25 years of age are Muslim? (2003).
    One third of the UK's 1.6 million Muslim population under 15, one third of Germany's 4 million Muslims under 18 and one third of Belgium's 364,000 Muslims under 15 (compared to 20%, 18% and 18% averages of UK, German and Belgian populations as a whole, respectively).

    Apparently Islam is a "recognised" religion in some states, not Ireland though (Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Greece, Portugal, Spain, Cyprus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania & Sweden).
    As of 2003, Muslims numbered 19,147 persons and constituted just 0.5% of the population. Now there are approximately 40,000 I believe, as of 2006. The third largest religion apparently. What's the second, I wonder?

    85% of Muslims vote Labour in Britain, although the paper states that "some European Observers" have suggested centre-right parties actively pursue the Muslim vote la Republicans with respect to (conservative Catholic) Hispanics. (GW Bush won the Catholic vote for the first time from Democrats in the last US presidential Election, >50%).

    The (first) paper argues that state-established Muslim representitive bodies have failed to be representive of the wide variety of Muslim traditions, sects. Private Islamic promote further alienation? It argues against attempts to nationalise and secularise Muslims.

    2003 Ipsos poll found that 75% of French Muslims (8.3% of the population) found that the value of Islam to be incompatible to those of the French Republic. 62% of the general French public felt likewise.

    Not an overly negative discussion paper, though suggesting that as long as European economies continue to "sputter" and as Muslims become more self-confident & dissatisfied coupled with growing intolerance (towards them) then conflict will ensue, analogous to 1950s America (where Blacks constituted about 10% of the population). Not an entirely good analogy, though.

    Interesting paper, you should read it Batman.

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    The second paper makes for an easier read, though it relies less heavily on statistics than the first. It also puts everything in historical perspective, as up-to-date as the 7/7 attacks.

    It provides a variety of projected scenarios from scholars of different viewpoints throughout the article. Also contained in it are some newspaper opinion polls from around the continent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sackville
    were would the PC brigade around here be withoutt...

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    Quote Originally Posted by martan
    As of 2003, Muslims numbered 19,147 persons and constituted just 0.5% of the population. Now there are approximately 40,000 I believe, as of 2006. The third largest religion apparently. What's the second, I wonder?
    The Church of Ireland, I guess?

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    Just curious: what's the true percentage of Moslem population in Ireland now? Has the increase leveled off since the financial crisis or is it still rising?

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