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    In an effort to prove that the Greens are not in government just to make poor people pay more for their lightbulbs, their Deputy Leader Mary White has proposed that a 1 cent tax on mobile phone text messages would net the government an annual windfall of €1.4 billion.

    However, it would appear that these calculations are al flawed as those coming out of the Dept. Of Finance.

    Deputy leader Mary White estimates that a 1c tax on every text message could raise €1.4bn for the Exchequer.
    "In tough economic times, it seems a fairly equitable way of getting revenue in quickly without inflicting too much pain," she said.
    The tax would apply to all 25 million text messages sent by Irish mobile phone users every day, or more than eight billion texts every year. But rather than the €1.4bn that Ms White has claimed the move would raise, the real figure would be in the region of €81m.
    The deputy said people were free to disagree with her calculations, based on the country's four million people sending an average of 10 texts a day each. But even this only adds up to €146m. Ms White has been discussing the plan with Communications Minister Eamon Ryan since last October and hopes to present it shortly to Mr Lenihan after a parliamentary party discussion.

    It doesn't add up: Greens' text tax gets a wrong number - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

    It is reassurring that the people have such economic gurus as Ms. White in government at a time of fiscal meltdown.

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    Her flaw isn't even at the exalted level of economics... just mere arithmetic

    €1.4 billion implies 140 billions texts p/a

    383 million per day

    The highest figure she mentions is 40 million texts per day

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    Her flaw isn't even at the exalted level of economics... just mere arithmetic

    €1.4 billion implies 140 billions texts p/a

    383 million per day

    The highest figure she mentions is 40 million texts per day

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    Taxi for Deputy White...
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    Richard Bruton had also mentioned this last week on TV as an "innovative" way of raising taxes.

    - seems none of them can add.

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    Thread on this yesterday.. keep up people

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    Quote Originally Posted by wysiwyg View Post
    Thread on this yesterday.. keep up people
    Got a link for it?

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    anyone got the stats on how many texts we send a day ?

    the 1.4 billion is bollocks but i could very easily see 140 million. some people i know dont use their phones for talking at all, myself included. i'd easily do 20 texts on a saturday night and probably average 4 of 5 a day (mind you im on 3 and only spend 5c a go)

    i know we send a ridiculous amount for our population size but the only figure i can recall is related to phone ownership and how despite only having 4.5 million people theres about 14 million phones out there (inc's old ones lying in drawers after upgrades, works out at 3 per person )

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    AFAICT ppl will cease being Adctd2txt

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    Quote Originally Posted by constitutionus View Post
    anyone got the stats on how many texts we send a day ?

    the 1.4 billion is bollocks but i could very easily see 140 million. some people i know dont use their phones for talking at all, myself included. i'd easily do 20 texts on a saturday night and probably average 4 of 5 a day (mind you im on 3 and only spend 5c a go)

    i know we send a ridiculous amount for our population size but the only figure i can recall is related to phone ownership and how despite only having 4.5 million people theres about 14 million phones out there (inc's old ones lying in drawers after upgrades, works out at 3 per person )
    The lastest figures from Comreg are that there are 25m sent every day.

    RTÉ News: 25m texts sent in Ireland every day

    http://www.comreg.ie/_fileupload/pub...s/PR170608.pdf

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