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    Question Is it time for Bishop Magee to go ?

    Following the Cloyne report is it time for the Catholic Church to sack Bishop Magee ?


    Colm O’Gorman, the director of Amnesty International Ireland and the former director of the One-in-Four victim support group, said he had no confidence in Magee. He said: “The report shows the person who had ultimate responsibility for child protection in this area has been shown to have failed absolutely in discharging that duty.


    A radical lay Catholic group has called for the immediate resignation of the Bishop of Cloyne, Dr John Magee, in the wake of a damning sex abuse report.

    The 'Voice of the Faithful' lobby, which campaigns for more accountability in the Irish Catholic Church, said that if Bishop Magee fails to step down, Pope Benedict should exercise his supreme authority by demanding his resignation.

    Ireland's most prominent Roman Catholic leader, Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin, questioned Tuesday whether all of his fellow bishops adequately protect children from sexually abusive priests.

    Archbishop Martin suggested that the Cloyne bishop should step aside for new leadership and help restore public confidence.

    "He should make the decision which is in the best interests of child protection," the archbishop told Ireland's state television station, RTE.

    And in a carefully worded statement, Martin stressed he was "extremely concerned" that the problems uncovered in Magee's diocese could be more widespread. He called on all of Ireland's bishops to confirm whether they were following the Irish church's decade-old official policy of openness and investigation.

    The archbishop called on other bishops and religious orders to confirm to the investigator, Elliott, that they are committed to reporting abuse reports to police and other authorities "in a uniform way." If Elliott could not confirm these commitments, Martin warned, he would impose "his own system of accountable child protection" on all Catholic clergy living or working in his sprawling constituency.




    Is this only tip of the Catholic churches involvement in the systamtic abuse of Children ?
    Time for change !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belfast-citizen View Post
    Following the Cloyne report is it time for the Catholic Church to sack Bishop Magee ?


    Colm O’Gorman, the director of Amnesty International Ireland and the former director of the One-in-Four victim support group, said he had no confidence in Magee. He said: “The report shows the person who had ultimate responsibility for child protection in this area has been shown to have failed absolutely in discharging that duty.


    A radical lay Catholic group has called for the immediate resignation of the Bishop of Cloyne, Dr John Magee, in the wake of a damning sex abuse report.

    The 'Voice of the Faithful' lobby, which campaigns for more accountability in the Irish Catholic Church, said that if Bishop Magee fails to step down, Pope Benedict should exercise his supreme authority by demanding his resignation.

    Ireland's most prominent Roman Catholic leader, Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin, questioned Tuesday whether all of his fellow bishops adequately protect children from sexually abusive priests.

    Archbishop Martin suggested that the Cloyne bishop should step aside for new leadership and help restore public confidence.

    "He should make the decision which is in the best interests of child protection," the archbishop told Ireland's state television station, RTE.

    And in a carefully worded statement, Martin stressed he was "extremely concerned" that the problems uncovered in Magee's diocese could be more widespread. He called on all of Ireland's bishops to confirm whether they were following the Irish church's decade-old official policy of openness and investigation.

    The archbishop called on other bishops and religious orders to confirm to the investigator, Elliott, that they are committed to reporting abuse reports to police and other authorities "in a uniform way." If Elliott could not confirm these commitments, Martin warned, he would impose "his own system of accountable child protection" on all Catholic clergy living or working in his sprawling constituency.




    Is this only tip of the Catholic churches involvement in the systamtic abuse of Children ?
    I don't recall Diarmuid Martin calling for Magee to resign? You might provide the link to that statement on RTE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belfast-citizen View Post
    Following the Cloyne report is it time for the Catholic Church to sack Bishop Magee ?


    Colm O’Gorman, the director of Amnesty International Ireland and the former director of the One-in-Four victim support group, said he had no confidence in Magee. He said: “The report shows the person who had ultimate responsibility for child protection in this area has been shown to have failed absolutely in discharging that duty.


    A radical lay Catholic group has called for the immediate resignation of the Bishop of Cloyne, Dr John Magee, in the wake of a damning sex abuse report.

    The 'Voice of the Faithful' lobby, which campaigns for more accountability in the Irish Catholic Church, said that if Bishop Magee fails to step down, Pope Benedict should exercise his supreme authority by demanding his resignation.

    Ireland's most prominent Roman Catholic leader, Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Dublin, questioned Tuesday whether all of his fellow bishops adequately protect children from sexually abusive priests.

    Archbishop Martin suggested that the Cloyne bishop should step aside for new leadership and help restore public confidence.

    "He should make the decision which is in the best interests of child protection," the archbishop told Ireland's state television station, RTE.

    And in a carefully worded statement, Martin stressed he was "extremely concerned" that the problems uncovered in Magee's diocese could be more widespread. He called on all of Ireland's bishops to confirm whether they were following the Irish church's decade-old official policy of openness and investigation.

    The archbishop called on other bishops and religious orders to confirm to the investigator, Elliott, that they are committed to reporting abuse reports to police and other authorities "in a uniform way." If Elliott could not confirm these commitments, Martin warned, he would impose "his own system of accountable child protection" on all Catholic clergy living or working in his sprawling constituency.




    Is this only tip of the Catholic churches involvement in the systamtic abuse of Children ?
    I should say so, but what will probably happen is he'll be given a cushy assignment in the Vatican, probably right alongside Boston's own enabler of child abuse, Cardinal Law.

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    Many thanks. Interesting though that it is not on the RTE website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corelli View Post
    I don't recall Diarmuid Martin calling for Magee to resign? You might provide the link to that statement on RTE.
    Diarmuid Martin picked his words very carefully, inviting Magee to interpret them as a call to resign. Magee is an absolute disgrace and embarrassment to the Catholic Church. I expect him to leave or be kicked out after the Christmas period is over.

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    it was time for this disguisting excuse of a human being to go long before he came in the first place..........

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    I tend to agree that the Bishop should resign.

    But what a farce when the corrupt Fianna Failers, who never resign nor ask any of their big business buddies to resign, have the cheek to call on him to go.

    Why don't these FF scumbags resign? And take your filthy and filthy rich friends with you!

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    A full inquiry has been ordered into allegations of clerical child abuse at the Diocese of Cloyne in Cork.


    The Cabinet has decided to refer the matter to the commission investigating complaints of abuse at the Dublin Archdiocese.

    The Minister for Children announced the decision this afternoon at the publication of a nationwide audit into the Catholic Church's adherence to child protection measures.

    "I believe there is evidence that points to the fact that Bishop Magee, as the responsible person, did not faithfully report actual compliance with child protection procedures and the manner in which clerical sexual abuse allegations have been dealt with," the minister said.


    "Accordingly, the Government has taken the decision to notify the Cloyne Diocese to the Commission Investigation into the Dublin Archdiocese to carry out an investigation as regards to Cloyne."




    Not many replies from the loyal catholic following on this site !!
    Time for change !!

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    The Church isn't going to be swayed by external, non-authoritative opinion. Especially opinion that emanates from non-Catholic groups, many of whom are blatantly anti-Catholic and aggressively seek out information that they can warp and twist to suit their own agendas.

    For example: someone already mentioned Amnesty International -- a pro-abortion organisation who have sniped at the Church many a time in the past.

    I think the Catholic hierarchy, operating under civil law, with due regard to the relevant authorities and interest groups, should formulate their own conclusions and their own response. I'm sure this will be communicated in due time. And I don't believe that the Church are deliberately delaying, dragging their feet or seeking to upset the due process. With the full facts, I've no doubt that the Irish clergy will make the right decision, seek justice and do their utmost to try to atone for any evil acts that were perpetrated under their watch.

    Let's everyone just calm down. The child-rapist-angry-mob mentality really is beginning to grind on me at this stage.

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