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    Default Will the Government recover the 180 Million pork bailout from poison animal feed

    supplier's insurance cover?

    Will the government see to it that the owners of the company pay for the damage caused?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gulliblepleb View Post
    supplier's insurance cover?

    Will the government see to it that the owners of the company pay for the damage caused?
    No, one of them - owner of Glanbia - was on Marian Finuncane and said that even though they have insurance, it doesn't cover things that aren't their fault?!

    Sounds like pretty crap insurance to me, but the long and the sort of it is - tax-payer muggins pays for it.

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    Default Any lawyers out there? Hedley v Baxendale & consequential loss

    Its is fundamentally a case of consequential loss

    Alert - A fundamental change in the law concerning 'consequential loss'

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    Quote Originally Posted by gulliblepleb View Post
    Its is fundamentally a case of consequential loss

    Alert - A fundamental change in the law concerning 'consequential loss'

    Well, it would seem evident that insurance exists for just such an eventuality - they're still not going to pay for it themselves.

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    Default At the very least the owners of the posion feed factory

    should be rendered penny less.

    If a company did not have a licence for a positioning process then they should not benefit from limited liability

    There must be consequences

    If they were sold poisoned oil those who sold it must be made accountable and pay.

    If some one had transformers with poison oil they had a responsibility to dispose of it properly

    If poisoned oil disappeared then someone had a responsibility to report it.

    We need a witch hunt

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    Quote Originally Posted by gulliblepleb View Post
    should be rendered penny less.

    If a company did not have a licence for a positioning process then they should not benefit from limited liability

    There must be consequences

    If they were sold poisoned oil those who sold it must be made accountable and pay.

    If some one had transformers with poison oil they had a responsibility to dispose of it properly

    If poisoned oil disappeared then someone had a responsibility to report it.

    We need a witch hunt
    Well the company who sold the oil is in the North for a start, which would make prosecution more difficult instantly. Also, if it's some sort of non-legit operation, it's doubtful they have comprehensive insurance...or anywhere near €180 million.

    One would have to imagine the Millstream - the company in Carlow - is going to be in difficult straits. Can't imagine many farmers buying from them in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gulliblepleb View Post
    supplier's insurance cover?

    Will the government see to it that the owners of the company pay for the damage caused?

    Why would they? Fianna Fail consider stuffing fat pigs with the people's cash to be their only function. Just look at the re-capitalisation of the banks. Are we getting equity for our cash? In the immortal words of the dig-out man: are we fvck!

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    Default Why?

    Why should someone elses insurance cover a screw up by the Department of Ag.

    There was a contaminant in the foos chain so the departnment unnessecarily ordered the slaughter of 100,000 pigs (this was not an infectious disease so the FMD responses was idiotic)

    Smith should resign. The 180million he wasted trying to look tough could have allowed the cervical cancer vaceine proceed for 18 years saving 900 lives. Instead it was flushed down the jacks so he could look like a hardman.

    Ever since FMD it was clear Ireland needed a lab to conducted these tests at home, yet we didn't get one.

    We are told that there is no money for substitute teachers or cancer vacines (that would save money) Yet we can find 180million to bail out a screw up by an incompetent minister.

    There are many problems along the way - the primary one is that food safety should not be handled by the same person responsible for farmers income.

    We always hear about vested interests, unfortunately the worst vested interests are always the FF cabinet ministers putting there own election before everthing else.

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    Whatever about the merits of an insurance levy, there should also be a levy placed on large scale producers to counter the hidden costs of production associated with concentrated food systems.

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