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Thread: International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women.

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    Default International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women.

    Today marks the end of the Signature Campaign for the Elimination of Violence
    Against Women, I put this thread up to notify P.ie users of the Campaign:

    http://www.politics.ie/health-and-so...le-kidman.html

    The campaign was begun on the foot of comments by Ban Ki-Moon on issues
    round the VAW issue, wherein he indicated that the UN would be calling on
    National Governments to produce real evidence and measurable reforms
    in the areas of education and awareness on the issues. I do not think that
    the Irish Government has introduced a single measurable reform in the area
    and that is why they were carpetted in Geneva regarding transposing Rights
    Laws into Irish law.

    The info on the UN campaign is ironically enough on the FGM thread,
    where I argued that the right to privacy of the woman was breached
    and the problems were substantive because there had been a severe
    lack of awareness raised on EU laws regarding Protection in the form
    of implementing the 2006 Asylum Qualification Directive.

    NGOs such as Amnesty International and Trocaire have done more about
    raising awareness on issues of Violence Against Women and Girls and
    should be commended for their hard work in these areas. I am referring
    specifically to the FGM campaign by Trocaire and the voluntary work
    done by the Rape Crisis Centres in supporting victims who have to
    go through an Asylum system where funding on Gender Violence
    and Unaccompanied Children is as risible as to be practically non-existent.
    Ruhama support victims of sex-trafficking and again their work is
    privately funded and they are an NGO.

    So what has the Irish government Accomplished in Terms of both
    raising Awareness; and Reform in the areas of Gender Violence?

    And if they were asked to produce evidence of centrally funded education
    programmes on these issues , could they indeed do so?

    There are currently two Oireachtas Committees on areas around Protection
    and Consent , I am looking forward to recommendations that increase
    our awareness on the issues of vulnerablity and human rights rather than
    some politicised media campaign obfuscating the issues based in
    lack of Knowledge of the seriousness of educating kids to their own
    safety and rights to education/privacy and bodily integrity.

    http:http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.as...nst-women&Cr1=
    Last edited by Christine Murray; 25th November 2008 at 03:09 PM. Reason: linkage

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    Good work.
    Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.

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    I was in Ottowa a few years back and saw a moving monument to women killed in domestic violence and other situations. Very sad and very anger provoking. As a gay man who throughout my childhood and young adulthood has personally suffered totally unprovoked attacks on a good number of occasions I understand quite well the effects of violence. It is about power and very little about losing control. Good work and hope it makes a difference. No one should have to live in fear.
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    This should be common sense and it shouldn't take a signature on a list to show you are against violence. Statistically many wifebeaters will sign this list at some stage.

    I refuse to sign. You don't need a signature for something that should be common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermanpolitician View Post
    This should be common sense and it shouldn't take a signature on a list to show you are against violence. Statistically many wifebeaters will sign this list at some stage.

    I refuse to sign. You don't need a signature for something that should be common sense.
    I disagree. (All is right with the world)

    If you hold the belief that signatures aren't required for common sense, then how can you be sure that common sense exists?
    Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.

    - Niccolò Machiavelli

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    Default I get that supermanpolitician

    its not specifically about domestic violence but parity of esteem-
    that means acknowledging differences in approach to the world and working
    on education and empowerment.

    I am very concerned in how girls are educated about self-esteem, in
    some theocratic socieites they are raped/attacked with acid for
    seeking an education. small girls are seen as not requiring education in
    their own rights and in using their intellects. This is a problem that
    is ignored by many national governments including the Irish one(until
    quite recently) where organised groups of Parents opposed the sex education
    of girls- having a bit of self-esteem and knowledge is helpful to kids
    (both girls and boys).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobert View Post
    I disagree. (All is right with the world)

    If you hold the belief that signatures aren't required for common sense, then how can you be sure that common sense exists?
    I honestly think that the concept of signing against violence is a moot point. Encouraging women to make claims, greater support for victims, greater sentences for those found guilty etc are all necessary. By not signing it, are you assuming that someone is in favour of violence against women?

    I think more servere punishment is the way to go for all violent crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermanpolitician View Post
    I honestly think that the concept of signing against violence is a moot point. Encouraging women to make claims, greater support for victims, greater sentences for those found guilty etc are all necessary. By not signing it, are you assuming that someone is in favour of violence against women?

    I think more servere punishment is the way to go for all violent crimes.
    again its about education and parity of esteem. and not specifically about
    domestic violence. the report looks at forced marriage, forced iVF, FGM,
    education of girls, selective abortion and other issues which seem to
    stem from a mechanistic approach to Rights.. rather than to gender awareness.

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    "Violence against women" is a UN/Feminist buzzphrase, a conduit for all sorts of bullcrap feminist political and legal reform.
    Marxists, Feminists and Leftists operate on the basis of "liberating tolerance" - i.e. their ideas should be tolerated, and any opposition should be suppressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermanpolitician View Post
    I honestly think that the concept of signing against violence is a moot point. Encouraging women to make claims, greater support for victims, greater sentences for those found guilty etc are all necessary. By not signing it, are you assuming that someone is in favour of violence against women?

    I think more servere punishment is the way to go for all violent crimes.

    Yes, and this petition shows they have the support.
    Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.

    - Niccolò Machiavelli

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