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    Default Protestants in the Famine

    there's a new 2-part docudrama starting on RTE next Tuesday, following the story of a Protestant family who were forced to emigrate during the Famine. Promo on You Tube at

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Flv0PF_-j8]YouTube - DEATH OR CANADA[/ame]

    Raises the question of to what degree did protestants suffer during the Famine? would be interested in your views

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    Contrary to popular opinion, there were many ordinary protestants who were affected by the famine. The ruling classes and landlord class of the day didn't give 2 hoots what religion the ordinary masses were. If they couldn't pay their rents they were evicted.
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    We had a potato blight not a "famine".

    Ireland remained a net exporter of food during the time of the potato blight.

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    Class is what matters not Religion.

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    BBC NI had an interesting documentary on this in recent years claiming that Ulster was worse affected than Leinster. Having said that this should not be exaggerated and it should be remembered that the Catholics in the West had by far the worst of it, and that the underlying causes of the Famine included a system that impoverished Catholics disproportionately by banning them from universities and forcing them to pay tithes to the Anglican Church and above all forcing them under the thumb of Cromwellian-descendent gentry that were rackrenting the population. Protestants were also victims but to a far lesser extent, not least because unlike Catholics they were more likely to have old-money in the family because they had not been barred recently from education, professions like law, and inheriting and buying property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbysands81 View Post
    We had a potato blight not a "famine".

    Ireland remained a net exporter of food during the time of the potato blight.
    The fact of the matter is we had both, the potato crop failing was a problem but also the fact that large amounts of meat and cereals continued to be exported while the potato crop failed in successive years caused the "Famine"

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenview View Post
    The fact of the matter is we had both, the potato crop failing was a problem but also the fact that large amounts of meat and cereals continued to be exported while the potato crop failed in successive years caused the "Famine"
    Added to which is the fact that the majority of the population only had the potato available as their main food source. Any other crops they grew went as rent to the landlords. It was the landlords who did the exporting - not the tenants.
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    The Protestant departure out of Ireland to America started long before the famine and was due to the religious persecution and impoverishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenview View Post
    The fact of the matter is we had both, the potato crop failing was a problem but also the fact that large amounts of meat and cereals continued to be exported while the potato crop failed in successive years caused the "Famine"
    There was also ample amounts of corn but the British government refused to bring down the price so the markets would not be affected. Genocide by economics. 1 million dead in the richest empire in the world.

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    Current issue of History Ireland has a lot about Canada in it and I think there is a conference about this (the Irish in Canada) in Queen's early next year.
    "The thing that always annoyed me about traditional Irish historiography was the paradox of its Anglocentrism. People are now prepared, I think, to confront the possibility that many Irish problems are, in a sense, indigenous to the Irish situation." Roy Foster (1989).

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