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    Two related questions. (1) Why are there so many outbursts of Hysteria these days and (2) why are certain types of vile behaviour completely exempt from this Hysteria?

    One the one hand you have the criticism of Doctor Michael Neary who is being turned into a monster of iniquity even though for years his colleagues, nurses, administrators and patients saw nothing wrong with his work. The judge who investigated the case said that he had an exaggerated fear of excess bleeding after operations and was too quick to resort to the ultimate option. This is a bit like a major accident that is caused by a series of blunders that no one copped on to while they were happening. Why the disgusting demonisation of the man?

    On the other hand consider the case of former nun Nora Wall who was convicted in June 1999 of raping a child. Again the news coverage was vicious. "Vile Nun", "Pervert Nun", "I Was Raped by Anti-Christ". It quickly emerged that both the accuser and her "witness" had previously made a series of allegations against several other people and that this fact had been concealed from the defence. (After the trial one of their previous victims recognised the name of the "witness" in a newspaper report and contacted Nora Wall's family). The case collapsed and media comment ceased very quickly. There were no attacks on the false accusers!!

    But perhaps this was because Regina Walsh and Patricia Phelan were not household names? Well neither was Doctor Neary for that matter - and, unlike Nora Wall's accusers, he was not acting maliciously.

    In any case some well known figures in Ireland have acted viciously without being savaged by the media pack.

    For example John Cooney published his biography of John Charles McQuaid about the time of the Nora Wall controversy. Cooney's claim that the late Archbishop was a homosexual paedophile was not supported by a single historian or responsible journalist. Yet all he got was a light rap on the knuckles - and he was subsequently appointed Religious Affairs correspondent of the Irish Independent!

    Imagine the uproar if a Catholic author claimed that a previous Chief Rabbi of Ireland was a paedophile!

    Hysteria in Ireland is largely sexual hysteria and it is created and manipulated by the media. It is directed at people whom the media wants to be hated and those whom it loves are exempt (e.g. left wing journalists and politicians no matter how badly they behave.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilbarry1
    Hysteria in Ireland is largely sexual hysteria and it is created and manipulated by the media. It is directed at people whom the media wants to be hated and those whom it loves are exempt (e.g. left wing journalists and politicians no matter how badly they behave.)
    Would largely agree.

    Emmet Stagg being one case in point.

    The well known journalist who is a frequent coke-user being another.
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    Well the problem with a lot of media is that they are capitalist enterprises... They need to make profits and they benefit from such hysteria... The more they sell the more profits they make...

    So its no surprise that since America declared war on a few defenseless countries we started seeing news agencies like CNN becoming clones of FOX News... Hysteria helps sell more so be it... It is however interesting to note that such hysteria taps into the stereotypes that exist in the society before hand... The Media can be crucial in building attitudes in the masses as well but generally they dont experiment with things...

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    I think tommy sums up the media best

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    The media can't exist in a vaccum. Whereas in the past the media could survive by holding the State to account, the modern media cannot survive unless it continually promotes the idea that the State is on the brink of collapse. The media no longer sells 'news'; it sells popular reassurance that everything is somebody else's fault.

    What is perhaps most ironic is that people's regard for the media remains undiminshed. Most people will still take the view of a journalist over the view of a politician, despite the fact that the journalist is clearly been paid to sow discontent, while the politician is democratically elected.

    This is changing slowly. More and more people are beginning to see that the media is self-serving, money driven oligarchy. Whether the media can and will adapt to this is another matter.
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    The following is an extract from the Australian media about a SCHOOL newspaper that was heavily criticised by the NATIONAL PRESS because a teacher made a joke about Penthouse. One small advantage of this hysterical outburst is that no Australian teacher will ever again tell a joke to his students - unless it's one that would not have offended Doris Day. Teachers' jokes were seldom funny anyway!

    On a more serious note: I was a student for many years at schools run by religious - including a boarding school- and I never came across this kind of lunacy.

    School Newsletter Had Penthouse As Recommended Reading from Huliq News, 28 August 2008
    http://www.huliq.com/5/67100/school-new ... ed-reading

    ............ The school at the center of child-sex allegations, St Stanislaus College in Bathurst, New South Wales, Australia has removed a newsletter recommending Penthouse magazine as recommended reading for teenage boys. On the schools website, the newsletter has been replaced by a copy which omits these comments.

    In the same newsletter, principal of the college John Edwards informs the school community that The Daily Telegraph had contacted him regarding sex abuse allegations.

    The controversial comments were made by Ian MacDougall, a HSIE teacher. When asked what book he recommends every teenage boy read, he responded "Besides 'PeCENSOREDse' - any book that stirs the imagination/concious".

    A parent who does not wish to be named told Wikinews she took the comment to mean Penthouse magazine. She said the newsletter was given to her sons on Friday and when she read it she raised concerns with the school. The newsletter was changed on the school's website after concerns were raised. The parent said she was considering enrolling her sons at a public school following the incident. "It makes you wonder how much truth there is to the allegations when you have a teacher recommending students read an adult magazine," said the concerned parent.

    The schools principal John Edwards told Wikinews that the newsletter was changed after Mr. MacDougall's answer was "widely interpreted to mean a girl magazine". Mr Edwards said he deemed the original comments "unacceptable".

    When questioned by Wikinews on whether or not the article was recommending Penthouse, he said that the question was completed before the staff member went on long-service leave [!!] . The principal said the original version of the questions listed 'peCENSORED' and later had 'se' added to the end as "humour". He said after feedback from the comments, the version was replaced on the schools website.

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    Kilbarry1 Wrote:
    I was a student for many years at schools run by religious - including a boarding school- and I never came across this kind of lunacy.
    What a sheltered upbringing you must have had! Are you including your time in the seminary when you say you were a "student for many years" ?

    And what kind of "lunacy" did you come across in the seminary - was it of the Ledwith kind:

    Ledwith was nominated to be President of St. Patrick's by the then Bishop of Ferns, Dr. Brendan Comiskey. Comiskey resigned in disgrace on account of sex abuse cases in his constituency, and Ledwith paid compensation in 2002 for allegedly abusing a child.
    Ledwith was appointed during the tenure of Tomás Cardinal O'Fiaich Primate of All Ireland and Archbishop of Armagh, himself a former President of the College who had served Ledwith on the College staff until his appointment to Armagh in 1977. Ledwith was also supported by O'Fiach's successor, Cahal Cardinal Daly, who having been a Bishop since 1967 was well-versed with his career at the College. Ledwith was regularly spoken of as a future bishop and indeed Archbishop of Dublin especially in 1988 when Cardinal Desmond Connell was appointed.
    Seems to me there's not enough 'hysteria' in the media!
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    Kilbarry1 Wrote:
    Imagine the uproar if a Catholic author claimed that a previous Chief Rabbi of Ireland was a paedophile!

    Hysteria in Ireland is largely sexual hysteria and it is created and manipulated by the media. It is directed at people whom the media wants to be hated and those whom it loves are exempt (e.g. left wing journalists and politicians no matter how badly they behave.)
    You must have missed this story: New York Daily News

    Kilbarry1 Wrote:
    Hysteria in Ireland is largely sexual hysteria and it is created and manipulated by the media. It is directed at people whom the media wants to be hated and those whom it loves are exempt (e.g. left wing journalists and politicians no matter how badly they behave.)
    I suppose you'll be adding bankers and dodgy developers to your list of those whom you claim the media wants to be hated!
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    Default Child Killing Witch-hunts in Jersey and Ireland

    A £4million investigation into possible child murders at a care home in the Channel Island of Jersey was totally discredited today as police revealed it was based on tainted evidence. The farcical nature of the high-profile investigation at Haut de la Garenne became apparent when the island's police chief, Graham Power, was suspended.

    Fears of mass murder and unspeakable child torture first came to light when deputy police chief LENNY HARPER told the world's media that 'at least' six children had been killed at the home. He had claimed that a child's skull had been exhumed from secret torture chambers under the building and this claim created a world-wide sensation. (The "skull turned out to be a piece of coconut shell.)

    However, in a press conference today the new team in charge dismissed suggestions, made by Lenny Harper last February, that children could have been murdered or tortured at the care home.

    They revealed that 'human remains' found at the former home were almost all animal bones and that only three might be human. These dated back hundreds of years before the home was built.

    LENNY HARPER IS FROM DERY and it's quite likely that the Jersey hysteria originated in Ireland. Between 1999 and 2004 we had a large number of allegations that children had been killed in industrial schools run by the Christian Brothers. These included accusations in a major Sunday Newspaper of mass killing ('a Holocaust') at Letterfrack in Co. Galway. Not a single claim has proved to be correct. This is not surprising as several relate to periods when no child died of ANY cause. (I call these 'Murder of the Undead' or "Victimless Murder" allegations).

    The child killing allegations were not made by isolated nutcases but by major newspapers and by leading members of child abuse organisations. They have now ceased but the people responsible have not been called to account. (The journalists who created the hysteria have no intention of repenting.)

    Jersey is between the UK and France but neither country has seen this type of of witch-hunt before. What is happening in Jersey looks like a repeat of our IRISH witch-hunt.

    At least in Jersey the people responsible ARE being called to account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilbarry1 View Post
    Two related questions. (1) Why are there so many outbursts of Hysteria these days and (2) why are certain types of vile behaviour completely exempt from this Hysteria?

    One the one hand you have the criticism of Doctor Michael Neary who is being turned into a monster of iniquity even though for years his colleagues, nurses, administrators and patients saw nothing wrong with his work. The judge who investigated the case said that he had an exaggerated fear of excess bleeding after operations and was too quick to resort to the ultimate option. This is a bit like a major accident that is caused by a series of blunders that no one copped on to while they were happening. Why the disgusting demonisation of the man?

    On the other hand consider the case of former nun Nora Wall who was convicted in June 1999 of raping a child. Again the news coverage was vicious. "Vile Nun", "Pervert Nun", "I Was Raped by Anti-Christ". It quickly emerged that both the accuser and her "witness" had previously made a series of allegations against several other people and that this fact had been concealed from the defence. (After the trial one of their previous victims recognised the name of the "witness" in a newspaper report and contacted Nora Wall's family). The case collapsed and media comment ceased very quickly. There were no attacks on the false accusers!!

    But perhaps this was because Regina Walsh and Patricia Phelan were not household names? Well neither was Doctor Neary for that matter - and, unlike Nora Wall's accusers, he was not acting maliciously.

    In any case some well known figures in Ireland have acted viciously without being savaged by the media pack.

    For example John Cooney published his biography of John Charles McQuaid about the time of the Nora Wall controversy. Cooney's claim that the late Archbishop was a homosexual paedophile was not supported by a single historian or responsible journalist. Yet all he got was a light rap on the knuckles - and he was subsequently appointed Religious Affairs correspondent of the Irish Independent!

    Imagine the uproar if a Catholic author claimed that a previous Chief Rabbi of Ireland was a paedophile!

    Hysteria in Ireland is largely sexual hysteria and it is created and manipulated by the media. It is directed at people whom the media wants to be hated and those whom it loves are exempt (e.g. left wing journalists and politicians no matter how badly they behave.)
    Oh look. Deja vu time. This post is back again.

    Michael Neary - check

    Nora Wall - check

    John Cooney - check.

    Chief Rabbi - check.

    Yup. The same one again.

    Why every few months to you keep reposting the same post on a new thread? Could you not re-open the old one??? Or so you think that when you use a new name those of us who have read the exact same post won't cop on that it is still you?
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