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    Default Ludwig Van Beethoven's "Irish" Symphony.

    Ludwig Van Beethoven's magnificent 7th Symphony, would you believe, has an Irish connection.

    I first heard the complete Symphony on a vinyl album decades ago. It was then the fourth movement caught my attention. It definitely sounded Irish!

    Further research on the work described by Wagner as the "Apotheosis of the Dance", revealed the Fourth movement of the symphony was based on an Irish song, "Save Me from the Grave and Wise".
    As movie star Michael Caine famously says, "Not many people know that".

    http://irelandtoo.blogspot.com

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    Default Re: Ludwig Van Beethoven's "Irish" Symphony.

    Must listen to that again now when I get home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuizMaster
    Must listen to that again now when I get home.
    The second movement of Beethoven's 7th is absolutely beautiful. Listen and listen again.

    This rare? print of a painting of Beethoven has the inscription: "Thus Did All Nature Whisper to the Master".

    I purchased it at a car-boot sale.


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    Good Lord! This tripe has been going on for nearly eight years. Boring a hole in the head stuff! To think that old Beetfield composed so much stuff and only the seventh ever gets a mention. Now his Waldstein would be one of his best. Barenboim had a go at it...

    His sonatinas are mere childs play


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    Quote Originally Posted by MauriceColgan View Post
    Ludwig Van Beethoven's magnificent 7th Symphony, would you believe, has an Irish connection.

    I first heard the complete Symphony on a vinyl album decades ago. It was then the fourth movement caught my attention. It definitely sounded Irish!

    Further research on the work described by Wagner as the "Apotheosis of the Dance", revealed the Fourth movement of the symphony was based on an Irish song, "Save Me from the Grave and Wise".
    As movie star Michael Caine famously says, "Not many people know that".

    Discovering Ireland.
    Beethovan's setting of Irish folksongs bring out qualities in them that no other musician was ever able to hear. These settings were ruined by rubbish English language lyrics that were nothing but Paddywhackery, but the music itself is majestic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Taidhg Gaelach View Post
    Beethovan's setting of Irish folksongs bring out qualities in them that no other musician was ever able to hear. These settings were ruined by rubbish English language lyrics that were nothing but Paddywhackery, but the music itself is majestic.
    ... not exclusively Irish folk songs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengoose2 View Post
    ... not exclusively Irish folk songs.
    No indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taidhg Gaelach View Post
    Beethovan's setting of Irish folksongs bring out qualities in them that no other musician was ever able to hear. These settings were ruined by rubbish English language lyrics that were nothing but Paddywhackery, but the music itself is majestic.
    A bit on the dead side.

    Verdi is the one to do the dead stuff!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Taidhg Gaelach View Post
    Beethovan's setting of Irish folksongs bring out qualities in them that no other musician was ever able to hear. These settings were ruined by rubbish English language lyrics that were nothing but Paddywhackery, but the music itself is majestic.

    Thank you, and Ratio Et Fides. Also Noreen for raising this thread after so many years. Seems to me, and many others here, she is desperate to get my attention.

    Beethoven's fantastic Ninth symphony will always be my favourite. Leonard Bernstein and Pianist/Conductor Barenboim talking about Beethoven's beautiful music is a joy to listen to.
    They can be seen on youtube doing so. Wonderful insights.
    Last edited by MauriceColgan; 11th April 2016 at 10:13 AM.

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