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    http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... &sk=t&sd=a
    Thread on if Germany has invaded Ireland 1940-The IFS armed forces made "DAD's Army" look like a crack elite unit!

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    Very interesting read and thanks for providing it.

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    What they never realise about the IRA is that it's strength could never be definitively assessed - it depends on the circumstances, put British boots into Ireland and it grows exponentially - i wonder if that would also have been the case with a German invasion?

    WW2 was a close shave for Ireland, things could have gotten extremely vicious on this island if it had come to an Ireland-Germany-UK conflict. I feel there would have been many in the British state who would have been only too happy to wipe us out entirely then and an alleged German-fraternisation would have been as good an excuse as any to do it, not to mention the Germans themselves and their record for genocide during this period.

    There is a Unionist guy on that link who keeps posting happy smilies whenever he writes something negative about Ireland, i wonder how he would react if i wrote about the 'history of the Irish Unionists from 1916-1999', or better yet drew up a chart of how their power and influence changed over time during this period - and posted smilies on the end of it.....

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    The IFS had died before 1940, the country no longer went by that name once the constitution was ratified. It became Ireland or Éire.
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    If Britain had fallen there would have been no need for the Germans to invade.

    We would have been left more or less alone in the South anyway.

    I would have said that in such a scenario Germany would have occupied the North and imposed a strict but firm rule.

    I would presume Hitler would have then turned East in early 1941 and tried to bring down the Soviet Union.

    A Celtic Legion for the Ost Front perhaps?

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    A number of points need to be made here.

    The IRA in the period 1919-1921 had held down 100,000 plus British military personnel of all types (regular army, auxies, black & tans, coastguard) plus the RIC had largely deserted their posts, some joining the IRA. The British had detailed maps of the entire island of Ireland plus many personnel who knew the country well and a small section of the southern population who were loyal to the Crown. They also spoke a common language with with Irish people (leaving aside its history for a moment). Contrast this with the Germans, most of whose maps and information was woefully inadequate and out of date, few of whom spoke good and almost all of whom spoke English with, em German accents. The Germans also would have had few allies north of the border.

    It is a matter of fact that there were contacts between the IRA and Germany but an invading German army would be a different matter. The Germans may have overrun most of Europe in 1938-1941 but few of these missions involved large islands with hostile populations. It would have been no Stalingrad, but it wouldn't have been a walkover either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa
    If Britain had fallen there would have been no need for the Germans to invade.

    We would have been left more or less alone in the South anyway.

    I would have said that in such a scenario Germany would have occupied the North and imposed a strict but firm rule.

    I would presume Hitler would have then turned East in early 1941 and tried to bring down the Soviet Union.

    A Celtic Legion for the Ost Front perhaps?
    Don't you mean in such a scenario De Valera would have occupied the North

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    Germany would have invaded, not least to prevent the possibility of the US using Ireland as a staging post to invade Europe.

    And Germany would have crushed and pacified Ireland in a few days with ease and with very few soldiers.

    The Germans wouldn't be pussyfooting around like the British.

    Each German murdered by an IRA sniper or bomb would have resulted in severe reprisals with hundreds of locals executed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Podolski
    A number of points need to be made here.

    The IRA in the period 1919-1921 had held down 100,000 plus British military personnel of all types (regular army, auxies, black & tans, coastguard) plus the RIC had largely deserted their posts, some joining the IRA. The British had detailed maps of the entire island of Ireland plus many personnel who knew the country well and a small section of the southern population who were loyal to the Crown. They also spoke a common language with with Irish people (leaving aside its history for a moment). Contrast this with the Germans, most of whose maps and information was woefully inadequate and out of date, few of whom spoke good and almost all of whom spoke English with, em German accents. The Germans also would have had few allies north of the border.

    It is a matter of fact that there were contacts between the IRA and Germany but an invading German army would be a different matter. The Germans may have overrun most of Europe in 1938-1941 but few of these missions involved large islands with hostile populations. It would have been no Stalingrad, but it wouldn't have been a walkover either.
    Comparing the technology of the tans in 1920 with the German army of 1940 is stretching it to say the least . We would have been blitzed into submission without to much difficulty .

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    Not without airbases and fuel depots.

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