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    Default ICTU visit to Israel , Gaza and West Bank.

    Report to be issued, should be interesting :
    http://www.ictu.ie/press/2008/06/13/con ... west-bank/

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    Pity they didn't go to Syria, Lebanon and Jordan, where there's supposed to be up to 4 million Palestinian refugees who not only can't have trade unions to represent them, but they are excluded from being allowed to work in most jobs.
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    They won't have to if the refugees can return to their homes and land free from the threat of murder which incidentally is the reason they are refugees. There you go simple answer to the matter you have just raised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kintama
    They won't have to if the refugees can return to their homes and land free from the threat of murder which incidentally is the reason they are refugees. There you go simple answer to the matter you have just raised.


    I wasn't asking any question at all. Just pointing out a fact. And most of those so called 4 million Palestinian refugees never even set a foot in Israel. They were all born in either Syria, Jordan or Lebanon. Some of them are up to sixty years of age now and they have never had anything like equal rights in the Arab countries they were born in, never mind trade unions to represent them.
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    Default Re: ICTU visit to Israel , Gaza and West Bank.

    What part of the fact that I made reference to do you have a problem with?

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    Default Re: ICTU visit to Israel , Gaza and West Bank.

    Quote Originally Posted by kintama
    What part of the fact that I made reference to do you have a problem with?
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    Default Re: ICTU visit to Israel , Gaza and West Bank.

    Can't spot any reference to Eurovision on this thread. You are obviously working to hard up there in the Embassy . Has Yanshuf gone off on holidays and left you on your own?

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Chaim
    they have never had anything like equal rights in the Arab countries they were born in, never mind trade unions to represent them.
    That's a fair point, but because other Arab nations treat Palestinians abysmally is not justification for Israel to do likewise.

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    Default Re: ICTU visit to Israel , Gaza and West Bank.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roisin
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    they have never had anything like equal rights in the Arab countries they were born in, never mind trade unions to represent them.
    That's a fair point, but because other Arab nations treat Palestinians abysmally is not justification for Israel to do likewise.
    But the Israelis don't. Palestinian citizens of Israel are allowed to work and they receive similar pay and benefits as their Jewish counterparts. The ICTU can have no complaints on that score. Palestinian citizens of Israel can attend Israeli schools and universities the same as Jews. They don't have those rights in the Arab nations they have been living in for the last 60 years. They can run their own businesses. They can't do that in the Arab states they have been living in since 1948. Every state run company in Israel has to have at least one Arab Israeli on it's board. That's not the case in their 'host' Arab countries. Arab Israelis have full voting rights and representation in the Knesset (Israeli parliament). They've no such rights in the Arab countries they've been living in for the last 60 years......even those who were born in those countries, and that would be any of them that are under the age of 60. In Israel Arab israelis can practice law. Not so in Syria, Jordan or Lebanon. In fact in those countries Palestinians cannot work in jobs like law. The only jobs that are open to them in those Arab states are menial jobs.

    Do you know that one of the most sought after commodities in the Middle-East is Israeli citizenship or residency status. Every year thousands upon thousands of Arabs are trying to find some way to get into Israel and make it their home. They want to live in Israel because they know they would have a much better life than they have in their own countries. Jerusalem and Tel Aviv have massive problems trying to cope with the amount of Arab homosexuals who are trying to claim refugee status. And that's only the homosexuals. Anyone in the Arab world who is facing persecution or discrimination is doing whatever they can, either legally or illegally, to get into Israel, to escape this persecution or discrimination they suffer under Arab rule.
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    L'Chaim:
    The ICTU can have no complaints on that score.
    I am sure ICTU can decide that for themselves. They dont need the advice of the Israeli embassy to decide such things

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