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    Barack Obama has quite definatively shown his true colours most explicity to date recently at a fundraiser in San Francisco. In it he referred to the people of small town America in the following terms:

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    The Huffington Post[/url]]You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
    In the heat increasingly bitter Democratic presidential nomination battle, these disgraceful comments by Obama have been leaped on by Hillary Clinton as evidence of the "elitist", "demeaning" and "out of touch". The McCain camp's spokesman Steve Schmidt said of the comments: "It shows an elitism and condescension towards hardworking Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking," Schmidt said. "It is hard to imagine someone running for president who is more out of touch with average Americans."

    This will obviously be a massivly embarrassing faux paus by Obama. He has revealed himself as not the candidate of change, but an old fashioned American liberal with a negetive view of the American people. With this in mind it is not surprising that Obama made these comments in San Francisco and not in the areas he spoke of. One could not imagine them going down so well there. He has form for tailoring his message and his tastes to suit the audience. The candidate who transcends race attends a church enthraled with Black separatism for twenty years. The candidate whose campaign claims he will rebuild America's industries with narrow-minded protectionism in public assures those same foreigners that they have nothing to fear from him on that score. And now this. Thankfully, he may have just commited political suicide, if not in the primaries, then in the November election.
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    Default Re: Barack Obama shows his true colours

    Imagine how damaging these sort of gaffes will be in a Presidential Election in November, with a far more conservative electorate.

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    Yet another example of Obama's ineptitude. He has had the easiest of easy rides in the media, Clinton has made tactical errors, and yet this keeps happening to him. Instead of making a clean break with a preacher whose views would frighten away millions in the presidential election, he delivered a rather wishy-washy non-disowning disowning. He was caught out on NAFTA, is now desperately changing his stances on gun control, abortion (at this stage he has achieved the unique distinction of uniting pro-life and pro-choice campaigners both of whom now say they don't trust a single thing he says, having had bad experiences with him) and withdrawal from Iraq (where a definite withdrawal within a set timespan has now become a sort of withdrawal at some stage but not actually actually a withdrawal from Iraq, merely back to baracks in Iraq), etc.

    His lack of coherence was shown last week in an interview with a gay magazine where he said that he favoured scrapping "don't ask, don't tell" on the issue of gay soldiers but then when asked would he instruct the army to take gay soldiers, said he wouldn't. So in other words, he opposes 'don't ask. Don't tell' as discriminatory, but won't say what he proposes to replace it with, saying that the army should accept gay soldiers but they don't have to (whatever that means).

    No wonder Republicans last January were saying privately that Obama was the candidate they wanted the Democrats to run. He is incoherent, superficial, goes to pieces when challenged on policy details, and as the primaries showed, does badly in the key states they Democrats must win, and is in the lead for the nomination through notoriously undemocratic caucuses (which as the sort of dodgy democracy Mugabe would love to adopt) and wins in states that a Democrat hasn't a snowballs chance in hell of winning come November.

    In the last couple of days three uncommitted super delegates, who said they had been leaning towards Obama, have told US newspapers that they are "increasingly worried" about his candidacy and have severe doubts about whether he could win in November. Rumoured endorsements have failed to appear in the last week, and there has been a notable cooling in the relationship between Richardson and Obama. Oprah has also distanced herself from him. Obama is showing signs of being a new Dukakis, but Dukakis only began to lose it in September 1988, not this early. At this stage if he is the nominee he has a growing chance of facing the sort of wipeout Mondale faced in 1984, with key Democratic states showing worrying signs in poll numbers, and the Republican states he said he would pick up showing him facing 20-30% losses to McCain.
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    Mind you, he could well be right. Not that that counts for anything in politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibis
    Mind you, he could well be right. Not that that counts for anything in politics.
    As you know, Ibis, even where some voters are bitter and twisted gobshites (and anyone who has ever canvassed will meet tons of that sort) you can never say it. Obama's stupidity was to say it. People won't thank him for being honest. They will be offended by what he said about them and their neighbours.
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    I actually think that Obama is on the mark on this one. It's a very socialist take on why voters turn more to the right and to blame other sectors of society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john geraghty
    I actually think that Obama is on the mark on this one. It's a very socialist take on why voters turn more to the right and to blame other sectors of society.
    Or maybe its because the right defends the rights(guns, marriage) and ideals(obeying the law) that existed as long as America did.

    Yes ibis I'm sure you can get a few talking heads for the media to justify Barack Obama's snobbery but on the whole it's just simplistic bigotry, elitism and irrationality like the main of American Liberalism and European social democracy.
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    he damn right but he could have put it much better where's mister a more perfect union?

    there's been a bit of a barack lash recently

    ill look now but what headlines is he getting?
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    [quote=Defeated Romanticist]
    Quote Originally Posted by "john geraghty":ta50lh4j
    I actually think that Obama is on the mark on this one. It's a very socialist take on why voters turn more to the right and to blame other sectors of society.
    Or maybe its because the right defends the rights(guns, marriage) and ideals(obeying the law) that existed as long as America did.

    Yes ibis I'm sure you can get a few talking heads for the media to justify Barack Obama's snobbery but on the whole it's just simplistic bigotry, elitism and irrationality like the main of American Liberalism and European social democracy.[/quote:ta50lh4j]

    Why on earth would one need meejits when we have people like your good self to demonstrate the truth of the proposition?
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    Not the cleverest thing to say.

    What a mental picture he must have of small town America. Bitter Bible thumpers with guns who despise anyone form over the hill. Suppose they play banjos, have 6 fingers and like to hear people squeal like pigs. But there again anyone who has spent 20 year listening to Rev Wright should feel right at home.

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