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Thread: State should outlaw non medical Circumcisions on Children

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    Default State should outlaw non medical Circumcisions on Children

    The practice of circumcision of children, male or female, for non-medical religious or cultural purposes is nothing short of a barbaric assault on non-consenting defenseless persons and a breach of their human rights as regards the integrity of one’s body.

    The State should ensure both that the practice is illegal and that the law is enforced and should prohibit all hospitals and individuals from carrying out this practice.

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    I agree it should be banned unless carried out by a qualified doctor.

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    There's quite a difference between female 'circumcision' and male circumcision

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu84
    There's quite a difference between female 'circumcision' and male circumcision
    True, though one could argue that the basic point remains the same

    Circumcision affects sexual function in both males and females. But male circumcision has been accepted within certain traditions living here for centuries. I don't think it should be banned, but FT's point re a qualified doctor is a good one

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    The Child cannot lend their consent. The State through its agents and servants should not carry out such a barbaric assault because:

    1 It is wrong
    2 The child cannot give consent
    3 The State could be sued for Assault if the procedure is for non medical purposes

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJH
    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu84
    There's quite a difference between female 'circumcision' and male circumcision
    True, though one could argue that the basic point remains the same
    Not really, female circumcision is intended to prevent sexual pleasure during intercourse.
    Male circumcision is practiced on religious grounds or 'justified' on grounds of hygiene. That is may lessen to a degree sexual pleasure is not the same thing. The intent behind it is different.

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    Yeah, I was circumcised.. no biggy.
    Also an important part of some religions. Not barbaric at all, very common in states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauriceenjack
    The Child cannot lend their consent. The State through its agents and servants should not carry out such a barbaric assault because:

    1 It is wrong
    2 The child cannot give consent
    3 The State could be sued for Assault if the procedure is for non medical purposes
    Well the consent thing is a non-issue. Parents/guardians have responsibility in such matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
    I agree it should be banned unless carried out by a qualified doctor.
    Doctors have no business carrying out the removal of parts of the body, with out the Victims consent , for non medical reasons.

    Let them travel to some other Country for the procedure

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJH
    Quote Originally Posted by pauriceenjack
    The Child cannot lend their consent. The State through its agents and servants should not carry out such a barbaric assault because:

    1 It is wrong
    2 The child cannot give consent
    3 The State could be sued for Assault if the procedure is for non medical purposes
    Well the consent thing is a non-issue. Parents/guardians have responsibility in such matters
    Not really. By that logic a parent could do anything to a child as they would have gaurdianship rights. Parents have the right to raise as they wish their children, but they don't have the right to violate the harm principle.

    Yes, non-medical circumcisions should be banned.
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