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    Jesus Christ , explosive Amazon Prime documentary claims

    "The doc's claim suggests a Greek man named Apollonius may have been the true face behind the New Testament.

    The preacher, who was born around the same time as Jesus in Central Anatolia, is said to share a number of striking similarities.

    These include preaching arguably the same things, having a large crowd of loyal followers and performing miracles.

    The controversial series also explains how Apollonius rose to prominence by gathering religious followers during his miraculous action."

    Has anyone on p.ie seen this documentary? It seems like something akin to Ancient Aliens or the like on the so called "History" Channel. Also does anyone know if this is the first time such a theory has been floated?

    I have never heard of Apollonius of Tyan but have heard it suggested that Pythagorean philospohy was hugely influential on early Christianity - is that the source of the conflation between the two personalities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degeneration X View Post


    Jesus Christ , explosive Amazon Prime documentary claims

    "The doc's claim suggests a Greek man named Apollonius may have been the true face behind the New Testament.

    The preacher, who was born around the same time as Jesus in Central Anatolia, is said to share a number of striking similarities.

    These include preaching arguably the same things, having a large crowd of loyal followers and performing miracles.

    The controversial series also explains how Apollonius rose to prominence by gathering religious followers during his miraculous action."

    Has anyone on p.ie seen this documentary? It seems like something akin to Ancient Aliens or the like on the so called "History" Channel. Also does anyone know if this is the first time such a theory has been floated?

    I have never heard of Apollonius of Tyan but have heard it suggested that Pythagorean philospohy was hugely influential on early Christianity - is that the source of the conflation between the two personalities?


    May it's His twin brother. He looks a bit pale in his photograph.

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    His mother was a virgin also- which had to be a first-

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoipolloi View Post
    May it's His twin brother. He looks a bit pale in his photograph.
    I think the Gnostic Christians believed the apostle Thomas was Jesus's twin.

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    Impossible to tell except that the character of 'jesus' is certainly a composite made up of many influences. In pretty much the same way as the marian figure is derived from the Persian Anahira mixed up with elements of Diana and other goddesses since.

    Dionysus has a remarkably similar history/biography as a figure as yer man mr jesus. The vast majority of xtians today would be absolutely convinced they'd recognise mr jesus if he suddenly arrived standing in their back garden lookin' holy but the current agreed icon of mr jesus only came about from representations drawn up in Constantinople in the 6th century.
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    I think the only safe thing to say is he looks very like his Da.
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    The only other racing certainty from history is that none of the figures who claim to have been fathered by a divinity- from Macedonian tyrants to Roman Emperors and various lunatics nearer our end of the historical telescope have been fathered by a god.

    It was a good gig though while it lasted for most of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpy Talbot View Post
    Impossible to tell except that the character of 'jesus' is certainly a composite made up of many influences. In pretty much the same way as the marian figure is derived from the Persian Anahira mixed up with elements of Diana and other goddesses since.

    Dionysus has a remarkably similar history/biography as a figure as yer man mr jesus. The vast majority of xtians today would be absolutely convinced they'd recognise mr jesus if he suddenly arrived standing in their back garden lookin' holy but the current agreed icon of mr jesus only came about from representations drawn up in Constantinople in the 6th century.
    The early Christians were often mocked by so-called pagans for their resurrection story been too similar to that of Attis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degeneration X View Post
    The early Christians were often mocked by so-called pagans for their resurrection story been too similar to that of Attis.
    The pagans really took the mickey when the xtians attempted to say there was only one god who had to do everything by himself. Bear in mind they were used to a pantheon of gods who divided up the everyday tasks, one for the hearth and home, one for hunting and good fortune, one for war and so on.

    The pagan lads nearly killed themselves laughing when it was alleged there was only one god. It seemed unlikely to them. Which is how angels were invented.

    Sort of Santa's little helpers.
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    Quite a regular thing, the old resurrection after death. A beaten path into the clouds, as it were.
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