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    Default Light touch continuous assessment of projects without exam marks would encourage creativity

    Recent media reports claim that a majority of Leaving Cert (LC) students would prefer continuous assessment (CA) to the Leaving Cert. No doubt students have given little thought to the likelihood that CA would be gamed by many students who want access to top universities,especially the prestigious medical and law departments.

    Naturally, students object to rote learning that is necessary only for LC exam success. One possible solution would be to allow students to bring books,learning materials and mobile internet access to exam halls. They would still have to memorise where materials relevant to exam questions were located in the books.. Such exams would be more creative as the reduced time spent on rote learning could be spent in creative education.

    Creativity in secondary education could be enhanced by introducing light touch assessment of educational projects without formal exam marks. The lack of formal marks would remove objections about gaming, while the light touch would require a small amount of teachers' time compared to formal exams. In some cases, light touch might just amount to some friendly encouragement instead of informal exam marks.

    Given competitive pressures of the LC,many students and teachers would be reluctant to spend time on creativity projects that didn't quickly relate to exam success. In the interests of creative education,it would be necessary for the Department of Education to mandate that a certain proportion of study time be spent on projects, varying by subject.

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    We could also extend the playschool curriculum up to LC, ensuring that pupils would have a stress free time in school. Not sure how employers would decide between face painting prowess or best trier awards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    We could also extend the playschool curriculum up to LC, ensuring that pupils would have a stress free time in school. Not sure how employers would decide between face painting prowess or best trier awards.
    I assume you are not dismissing the value of research projects and projects of a practical nature involvimg manual skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patslatt1 View Post
    I assume you are not dismissing the value of research projects and projects of a practical nature involvimg manual skills.
    Not much interest in this topic so far. Maybe the subject should be tied in somehow to teachers' pay for supervising CA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patslatt1 View Post
    Not much interest in this topic so far. Maybe the subject should be tied in somehow to teachers' pay for supervising CA!
    Wonder why?
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    CA if properly implemented would be difficult to game. An assortment of pop quizzes, in class essay writing, project submission can be overseen by teachers.

    You can also shift the burden of correcting a teachers own students by having other teachers correct it and vice versa.

    While I like the points system, the way in which we educate young minds leaves a lot to be desired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patslatt1 View Post
    I assume you are not dismissing the value of research projects and projects of a practical nature involvimg manual skills.
    The LC is an objective method of measuring what students have learned of a standard curriculum. Project work is subjective, teachers will be pressurised by parents to give high marks to their little darlings, it really is a bad proposal. Basket weaving is a manual skill favoured by American universities with good football teams as an alternative to literacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    The LC is an objective method of measuring what students have learned of a standard curriculum. Project work is subjective, teachers will be pressurised by parents to give high marks to their little darlings, it really is a bad proposal. Basket weaving is a manual skill favoured by American universities with good football teams as an alternative to literacy.
    How does it work in other countries then?

    Also, the purpose of education will have subjectivity anyway. It’s a bad idea to say that we won’t look to change the system because of some alleged objectivity. At LC level various subjects have subjectivity inbuilt anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    The LC is an objective method of measuring what students have learned of a standard curriculum. Project work is subjective, teachers will be pressurised by parents to give high marks to their little darlings, it really is a bad proposal. Basket weaving is a manual skill favoured by American universities with good football teams as an alternative to literacy.
    The alternative CA model in the OP dispenses with formal exam marks for CA but doesn't propose to change LC marking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greener View Post
    CA if properly implemented would be difficult to game. An assortment of pop quizzes, in class essay writing, project submission can be overseen by teachers.

    You can also shift the burden of correcting a teachers own students by having other teachers correct it and vice versa.

    While I like the points system, the way in which we educate young minds leaves a lot to be desired.
    Students think a mechanistic approach geared to guessing exam questions will result in high exam marks, as opposed to a pursuit of learning for its own sake. That's debatable.

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