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Thread: Will late middle aged gardai hired after age 35 do front line policing or hide under desks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    A finance or IT professional who's over 35 and not earning more than 50k a year, plus some perks like company car, health insurance, gym membership, employer contribution to your pension, share options, etc. probably isn't very good at his job.

    Even a mediocre professional at that age would surely think twice before abandoning a nice comfortable office job for the chance to be kicked and spat upon by a mob in somewhere like Jobstown and then be abused in the press and social media for the privilege.
    Finance professionals are usually highly educated on salaries close to the garda average of 68,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefly123 View Post
    Yes but they have to work nights,weekends and bank holidays etc to receive that payment.
    People in other careers will be tucked up in their beds or in the pub or celebrating Christmas with their children.
    With pensions worth well over a million euros in today's money, gardai needn't save for retirement or become landlords as many have.
    Last edited by Patslatt1; 7th December 2018 at 02:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefly123 View Post
    Absolutely agree.
    The likes of pat however look at pay alone and then complain how a security guard is on less than a guard or some similar guff.
    Security guards don't have pensions worth well over a million in today's money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verhofstadt View Post
    A lot of car allowances about, slightly more beneficial in terms of BIC to a company car, unless you really are on the road for work every day.
    Company car allowances are very tight and mostly available only to road warriors. Travel expenses also are very tight, apparently disallowed even for foreign business travel in many cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefly123 View Post
    Absolutely agree.
    The likes of pat however look at pay alone and then complain how a security guard is on less than a guard or some similar guff.
    nevermind Postman Pat, how about Slattman Pat and his PS Cat.

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    If agrada can pass a physical, gender neutral, and is required to pass it e Rey year then that would be good. All gardai should be able to take and throw a decent punch. They are there to deal with knackers and anti social behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    If agrada can pass a physical, gender neutral, and is required to pass it e Rey year then that would be good. All gardai should be able to take and throw a decent punch. They are there to deal with knackers and anti social behavior.
    The FBI have an informal test with a low bar, avoiding extreme obesity. Don't you know the gardai are a law to themselves?

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    35 isn't even middle-aged, let alone late middle-aged. Anyone of 35 who calls themselves middle-aged is deeply lacking in real-life experience, which to be fair seems to be true of a lot of them these days.
    It's either very new cheese or very old meat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by valamhic View Post
    Twenty years ago, I went into Seven Sister's Road police station in London and the Station Orderly was a civilian woman. There was never a rule that Gardai of any age could not do front line duties. I have seen Gardai in their 50's out on patrol.
    There are many cases when you need the old head in a difficult situation. Emotional intelligence is very important in de-escalation. And in the US where cops are armed, the focus shifts to control via lethal force.

    A Garda who can project authority without being on a power trip is a vital skill. What is needed are resources and numbers which can back up said experienced Gardai. So they are not just bluffing...

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    As a 60 yr old who is fit for my age I regularly play soccer. tag rugby and work out with weights and a heavy bag ( no not the missus) .As long as the garda remain an unarmed force I think there should be age limits for Garda as well as for any jobs that may require physical confrontation. There should also be some sort of physical requirements in terms of height etc , perhaps 80% should be over 5.8 and there should be minimal physical fitness requirements. However many of the gardai i see , especially the Mna Gardai would be physically unable to restain an average 80 yr old. or a young teenager . Unfortunately the drive for inclusion and political correctness means that society is unwilling to face the fact that at time there is a need for physical force to be applied. Similarly with the DF . The policy of including women in all military roles is a disaster which will only really be proven if and when the Df have to engage in some form of combat etc.
    If the garda which to reamain unarmed ( no firearms) then more use of non letal items such as gas, tazers need to be considered.

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