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Thread: Saudi hit squad kills and dismembers journalist in Turkish consulate.

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    Default Saudi hit squad kills and dismembers journalist in Turkish consulate.

    According to Turkey, a journalist who is critical of Saudi crown, turned up at an appointment at the Saudi consulate in Turkey last week. Meanwhile a team of 15 security and intelligence agents have flown in on Gulfstream jets from Saudi and are in the consulate when he arrives. His fiance waits outside. He never leaves. Well, not in one piece it is now believed - the autopsy expert that flew in with the bone saw allegedly has seen to that. Turkish workers at the consuls residence were told at short notice and without explanation not to come to work that day.

    He wrote for the Washington Post among others, so this has created ripples in Washington as well as Ankara.

    Jamal Khashoggi: alleged Saudi hit squad linked to disappearance | World news | The Guardian

    US intelligence were aware that the Saudi's wanted to get him back on Saudi soil. Looks like they took the loose interpretation of that.
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    Murdering opponents overseas. They're nearly as bad as the Israelis but at least they didn't use Irish passports.

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    Meanwhile, Saudi women who campaigned for the right to drive are disappearing or being sent into exile:

    Saudi Women Who Fought for the Right to Drive | Pulitzer Center
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lúidín View Post
    Murdering opponents overseas. They're nearly as bad as the Israelis but at least they didn't use Irish passports.
    I don't know. There is something particularly chilling about this. Using your own consular residence in a foreign country to carry out a hit and dismember a citizen? Not good.
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    It's hard to believe that an incident like this, and all that it imports, has a thread with one page of responses on what pretends to be a politics site. Because regardless of what Trump and Kushner have personally invested into the Saudis and MBS in particular, the ramifications of what happened, and the consequences from Congress in particular, will unravel Trump's entire Middle East policiy.
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    Consular source heard screams and sounds of struggle.

    Turkish investigators have heard testimony from a source who was inside the Saudi consulate at the time of Khashoggi's disappearance who claims to have heard sounds of a struggle, according to Al Jazeera's Jamal Elshayyal, reporting from Istanbul.

    "I have learned earlier that, among the evidence with the investigation is testimony from inside the consulate at the time that Jamal [Khashoggi] was there, which includes hearing sounds of loud screams and shouting, as well as calls for help and the sound of a struggle and then sudden silence," he said.

    What happened to Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi? | Saudi Arabia | Al Jazeera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malbekh View Post
    It's hard to believe that an incident like this, and all that it imports, has a thread with one page of responses on what pretends to be a politics site. Because regardless of what Trump and Kushner have personally invested into the Saudis and MBS in particular, the ramifications of what happened, and the consequences from Congress in particular, will unravel Trump's entire Middle East policiy.
    I completely agree.

    This, if true, is one of the most egregious abuses of international norms in recent times - but the arms industry must be fed - so President Trump will not allow any sanctions against his customers.
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    It may have been a rendition gone wrong. Either way it’s outrageous. However, our friend Erdogan seems keen to play this down after some initial sputtering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardillaun View Post
    It may have been a rendition gone wrong. Either way it’s outrageous. However, our friend Erdogan seems keen to play this down after some initial sputtering.
    In fairness, even Erdogan's crew seem genuinely outraged about this. It shows how far outside the pale this was. They were refreshingly undiplomatic in the way this story burst out of Turkey. Like, you can be sure that the US would have got wind of what happened very quickly too, but does anyone have any faith that they would have gone public with it like the Turks did?
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    Will the Irish govt. now warn citizens that it is dangerous to enter the Saudi Arabian embassy in Dublin.. or anywhere?

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