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    Staff at the Cork Marriage Counselling Centre (CMCC) have move swiftly to disassociate themselves from the centre's directors to refuse counselling services to same-sex couples. The decision not to sign an agreement with state agency Tusla that would require CMCC tocomply with equality legislation was made by the directors without consultation with the centre's counselling staff. As a consequence, funding amounting to between €250,000 and €300,000 per annum has been withdrawn.

    It appears that the refusal stems from a provision in the centre's constitution that prohibits the provision of services to same-sex couples. While they are perfectly entitled to do so, they have no been brought face-to-face with the fact that Bunreacht na hÉireann trumps their rule book when it comes to the allocation of state funding. While I have some sympathy with the CMCC's staff and clients who are likely to suffer as a result, it's good to see agencies of the state uphold the laws of the state and the democratically expressed wishes of the citizenship.

    The Irish Times covers the story here: Marriage counselling centre loses funding because it will not help gay couples
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    The fact that the state of this Republic? handed over valuable services to a sectarian, homophobic outfit like the rcc makes my blood boil; the ghost of JCMcQ walks through our Social, Health and Education Services.

    On the substantive issue the sooner the state founds a truly independent marriage therapy and mediation service absent the vested interests the better.
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    The state can provide the counselling service to the homosexuals instead.

    Courtesy of taxpayer funds.
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    That's so stupid. But their call.

    What's important now is that the 250k doesn't disappear but that organisations who have signed up budget for the increased demand on their time and are allowed to apply for the needed cash. Otherwise folks needing counselling will be the losers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerhard dengler View Post
    The state can provide the counselling service to the homosexuals instead.

    Courtesy of taxpayer funds.
    Meanwhile, the Catholic O'Taliban can do without taxpayer funding.
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    Harsh but fair enough. They are provided state funding to provide marraige counseling, but they refuse to recognize That SSM is recognized as marraige by the state.

    If they want to function off exclusively private funding, they can pick and choose their clients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twokidsmanybruises View Post
    Harsh but fair enough. They are provided state funding to provide marraige counseling, but they refuse to recognize That SSM is recognized as marraige by the state.

    If they want to function off exclusively private funding, they can pick and choose their clients.
    Meanwhile, they've managed to alienate their staff. Nice work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerhard dengler View Post
    The state can provide the counselling service to the homosexuals instead.

    Courtesy of taxpayer funds.
    If the “homosexuals” are residents or citizens of the state, then yes. They’re a part of the state and they are entitled to state-funded services.

    Sexual preference is irrelevant, as it has no bearing on whether a person is eligible for state-funded services.
    Last edited by twokidsmanybruises; 10th October 2018 at 12:23 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by statsman View Post
    Meanwhile, they've managed to alienate their staff. Nice work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twokidsmanybruises View Post
    If the “homosexuals” are residents or citizens of the state, then yes. They’re a pRt if the state and they are entitled to state funded services.

    Sexual preference is irrelevant, as it has no bearing on whether a person is eligible for state-funded services.
    The state can create a counselling service, to provide counselling to the homosexuals instead. Job done.
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