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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Crotta Cliach View Post
    Yes, I do mean Jr. There are so many players now that I am starting to mix them all up. I did mean Jared re the burner phone tho'.
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    And so it begins:

    "President Trump’s legal team is preparing written answers to special counsel Robert Mueller’s questions in the Russia probe, CNN reports. The questions reportedly relate to Mueller’s investigation into possible collusion between Trump associates and Russia. The network reports that Trump’s legal team is also relying “on documents previously provided to the special counsel.” After Trump responds to Mueller’s initial questions, another round of questioning could follow. The two sides have not yet agreed on whether to go forward with an in-person interview between Trump and investigators in Mueller’s office who are “probing whether Trump obstructed justice by firing FBI Director James Comey.” Trump attorney Jay Sekulow told CNN that the two parties are “in continuing discussions with the special counsel and [they] do not comment on those discussions.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Crotta Cliach View Post
    And so it begins:

    "President Trump’s legal team is preparing written answers to special counsel Robert Mueller’s questions in the Russia probe, CNN reports. The questions reportedly relate to Mueller’s investigation into possible collusion between Trump associates and Russia. The network reports that Trump’s legal team is also relying “on documents previously provided to the special counsel.” After Trump responds to Mueller’s initial questions, another round of questioning could follow. The two sides have not yet agreed on whether to go forward with an in-person interview between Trump and investigators in Mueller’s office who are “probing whether Trump obstructed justice by firing FBI Director James Comey.” Trump attorney Jay Sekulow told CNN that the two parties are “in continuing discussions with the special counsel and [they] do not comment on those discussions.”

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    Firing Comey cannot be obstruction of justice. If the sheriff is on my tail for a crime, I can still vote against him come election time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valamhic View Post
    Firing Comey cannot be obstruction of justice. If the sheriff is on my tail for a crime, I can still vote against him come election time.
    Let's see if we can make this very simple. "You" have committed a serious crime and are guilty of it. The Sheriff is after you for that crime. You convince the Mayor to fire the Sheriff so that he stops his pursuit of you. Justice would be putting, you, the criminal in jail. The Mayor obstructs justice by firing the honest sheriff so you, the criminal, get away free.

    EDIT: One cannot "vote against the sheriff at election time" because the Mayor has already fired him and he is gone. besides he is the good guy and we want him in there as sheriff; he is after the criminals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Crotta Cliach View Post
    Let's see if we can make this very simple. "You" have committed a serious crime and are guilty of it. The Sheriff is after you for that crime. You convince the Mayor to fire the Sheriff so that he stops his pursuit of you. Justice would be putting, you, the criminal in jail. The Mayor obstructs justice by firing the honest sheriff so you, the criminal, get away free.
    Where is the proof of the crime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Rommel View Post
    Where is the proof of the crime?
    I would have to assume the new sheriff is still collecting the bits and pieces and doing interviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Crotta Cliach View Post
    Let's see if we can make this very simple. "You" have committed a serious crime and are guilty of it. The Sheriff is after you for that crime. You convince the Mayor to fire the Sheriff so that he stops his pursuit of you. Justice would be putting, you, the criminal in jail. The Mayor obstructs justice by firing the honest sheriff so you, the criminal, get away free.
    It is even simpler than that.

    If there were discrepancies in a company accounts, auditors and forensic accountants would be called in to look over the books. If the CEO of the company obstructed the auditors, that would tell them a lot about what was going on.

    The record and behaviours of Manafort, Flynn, Roger Stone, Don Trump Jnr, Pappadopoulos, Vesilnitskaya and Cohen all point to what amount to major discrepancies in the Trump campaign, given the known scope of Russian election interference (which no one doubts).

    Enquiries into conspiracy between the Trump Campaign and Russian agents are entirely legitimate. You don't need proof to start an enquiry, just suspicion. Proof comes afterwards.

    The refusal of Trump to co-operate fully with the enquiry points an obvious finger of guilt in his direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Crotta Cliach View Post
    I would have to assume the new sheriff is still collecting the bits and pieces and doing interviews.
    What if there is no evidence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Rommel View Post
    What if there is no evidence?
    Probably an impasse, but in this case that is not the case. We have evidence. Just have to dig it all out.
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    "U.S. Says ‘Others’ Are Under Scrutiny in Cohen Grand Jury Probe
    By Bob Van Voris , Greg Farrell , and David Voreacos
    October 25, 2018, 8:48 PM GMT+1 Updated on October 25, 2018, 9:30 PM GMT+1

    "The grand jury investigating President Donald Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen is also scrutinizing “others” who may not be aware of prosecutors’ interest in them, the U.S. said in a court filing.

    "Numerous uncharged third parties” are named in the documents, the government said. Protecting their privacy interests make it impractical to release the warrant papers in redacted form, they argued...MORE

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