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    Quote Originally Posted by making waves View Post
    A number of twitter feeds from people observing the committee - came up under a battery of amendments on 'dignified burial' of feotal remains.

    Apparently there was an argument as well when some of the anti-choice TDs wanted to include a reference to 'menstrual blood' in the legislation.
    Non christians and other non mental people may have an issue with that.
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    Another amendment from the Gang of 9 (the nine - or was it ten - anti-abortion TDs who signed all these amendments) - it should be noted that in the vast majority of cases the committee voted 8-0 against these amendments -

    That women should be prosecuted if they fail to bury or cremate the foetus.
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    Mattie proposed an amendment wanting the ethnicity of the woman to be recorded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by making waves View Post
    Mattie proposed an amendment wanting the ethnicity of the woman to be recorded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by making waves View Post
    Another amendment from Mad Mattie - aborted foetuses should be baptised.
    The mormons do that already, so there's no need to do it twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by making waves View Post
    Another amendment from Mad Mattie - aborted foetuses should be baptised.
    Is this real? Would you have a list of the proposed amendments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by making waves View Post
    Mattie proposed an amendment wanting the ethnicity of the woman to be recorded.
    Feck sake, why? What’s his logic here?
    Last edited by Emily Davison; 9th November 2018 at 11:39 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gooner View Post
    Only one to my knowledge is Australia.

    In South Australia, there were 241 abortions out of 4,439 through GPs in 2015. That was only 5.4% of all abortions. (page 55)

    https://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/wps/w...78685a-m13MJ0U

    In Western Australia, 2.6% went through GPs in 2015. (page 30)

    https://ww2.health.wa.gov.au/~/media...rt-2013-15.pdf
    My lord you’re quite the library. Must help you when you meet Colm O’Gorman or write to newspapers.

    Personally at this stage I couldn’t give one rattling damn what the abortion rate is anywhere. You do realize you’re merely demonstrating how common and normal it is. Which will be the month after the next in Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily Davison View Post
    My lord you’re quite the library. Must help you when you meet Colm O’Gorman or write to newspapers.
    I don't know what you mean by any of this.

    Personally at this stage I couldn’t give one rattling damn what the abortion rate is anywhere. You do realize you’re merely demonstrating how common and normal it is. Which will be the month after the next in Ireland.
    What are you on about? That had nothing to do with abortion rates.

    It was a response to another poster and the point that GPs didn't provide abortions elsewhere. As was said, it is delivered through a GP system in very small numbers in Australia and discussing this in relation to Ireland is a perfectly valid discussion at the moment, no matter what side of the fence your on.

    Or did you miss the news about the ICGP poll or the upcoming EGM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooner View Post
    I don't know what you mean by any of this.
    I assume Emily is referring to your post, apparently edited since, where you mentioned that you have yourself provided figures to various high profile prochoice personalities.

    Quote Originally Posted by gooner View Post
    What are you on about? That had nothing to do with abortion rates.

    It was a response to another poster and the point that GPs didn't provide abortions elsewhere. As was said, it is delivered through a GP system in very small numbers in Australia and discussing this in relation to Ireland is a perfectly valid discussion at the moment, no matter what side of the fence your on.

    Or did you miss the news about the ICGP poll or the upcoming EGM.
    It's not relevant unless the reasons why GP services don't provide abortions in other countries is relevant to Ireland.
    For instance in the UK, back in the 60s, the priority was to end the high number of illegal abortions, carried out in some cases by doctors. So the decision made was to remove GPs and other non specialists from the equation altogether and have legal abortion provision only in specific centres.

    The existence of the U.K. as an Irish "solution" since then means that there are unlikely to be large numbers of "professional" providers of illegal abortions in Ireland, so that factor is unimportant. Ensuring there is no equivalent of the US situation where abortion providers are easily identified and regularly targeted by threats or actual violence, however, probably needs to be a factor in Ireland.
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