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    Quote Originally Posted by Toland View Post
    The backstop applies only under the May deal, which is dead in the water. A no-deal situation has no backstop.
    But the UK cannot countenance a No Deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toland View Post
    I note Mr jones is calling them fascists. Does that make him look like those people too?
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    Hooooooow does Grayling still have a job.
    The number of rapes, murders and other serious crimes committed by offenders on parole has risen by more than 50% since reforms to probation were introduced four years ago, according to official data that has triggered calls for the government to rethink its plans for another shake-up of the service.

    Serious further offence reviews – which take place when a convicted offender under supervision is charged with another serious offence (SFO) – rose from 409 in the year before the 2014 reforms to 627 in the 12 months up to last April.

    The new figures for England and Wales – which were shared with Plaid Cymru’s justice spokeswoman, Liz Saville Roberts – come as it emerges that coroners have taken the highly unusual decision to reopen inquests into three people killed by offenders under supervision, a move that is expected to expose systemic flaws in the probation service.

    The problems are blamed on former justice secretary Chris Grayling’s reform programme, which saw some probation work outsourced to eight private providers, who were given responsibility for running 21 community rehabilitation companies working with low and medium risk offenders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollandia View Post
    I note Mr jones is calling them fascists. Does that make him look like those people too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sync View Post
    Hooooooow does Grayling still have a job.
    Sorry to make the obvious retort and say:
    Couldn't you ask the same about the whole lot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toland View Post
    Have you seen those horrible peoples' manifesto? Take a look, hopefully any illusion of a resemblance will then recede...

    That

    That is seriously their list of demands!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawberry View Post
    Have you seen those horrible peoples' manifesto? Take a look, hopefully any illusion of a resemblance will then recede...

    That

    That is seriously their list of demands!
    Most people isn't interested in manifestos, though. Videos are much more attractive. I include myself in that judgement, by the way.

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    *chuckle*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toland View Post
    Sorry to make the obvious retort and say:
    Couldn't you ask the same about the whole lot?
    You can't though. Hancock and Hunt managed to put together a longterm NHS plan, Rudd's making the right efforts trying to fix the mess of Universal Credit.

    But Grayling consistently leaves a shambles behind him. He's incredibly incompetent. And this is the latest example of that incompetence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sync View Post
    You can't though. Hancock and Hunt managed to put together a longterm NHS plan, Rudd's making the right efforts trying to fix the mess of Universal Credit.

    But Grayling consistently leaves a shambles behind him. He's incredibly incompetent. And this is the latest example of that incompetence.
    Perhaps I'm being blinded by the overall effect.

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