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    Default David Irving to speak in UCC

    Accord to the UCC Website, the controversial David Irving has been
    invited to speak at UCC on the issue of free speech:

    http://www.uccphilosoph.com/internal/in ... 42&catid=6

    Why are they inviting him? He's discredited as a historian after
    losing the Lipstadt libel case ten years ago,where the court
    ruled he was a Holocaust denier and a falsifier of history.

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    Students looking for controversy, what an original and principled move.. I f***ing hate student politicians and self-promoters, flamethrowers too good for them...

    Still if he's coming let him speak and ignore the Nazi idiot. But you can be sure that even more self-promoting student mediocrities will be organising the kind of opposition that the old fraud relies upon..

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    Fair play to UCC for having the balls to defend free speech.

    Whatever one thinks about his views, letting him speak is in the best interests of all involved because it is only through allowing people like Irving to speak publicly that their views and opinions can be challenged and shown to be a load of BS.
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    It does smack of student politicians looking for cheap controversy alright. I stayed
    away from student politics during my UCC days.

    Irving took an unsuccessful libel suit to try to silence Lipstadt: he also threatened legal action
    against other historians who criticized him. He strikes me as someone who tries to
    take away the free speech of others. He shouldn't be there, full stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkadder
    It does smack of student politicians looking for cheap controversy alright. I stayed
    away from student politics during my UCC days.

    Irving took an unsuccessful libel suit to try to silence Lipstadt: he also threatened legal action
    against other historians who criticized him. He strikes me as someone who tries to
    take away the free speech of others. He shouldn't be there, full stop.
    Oh, a hypocrite of mighty proportions, as well as being a contemptible liar. The motive of those who invited him is obvious controversy-mongering, not a concern for free speech. The motives of those who will no doubt be out in full shrieking force when he arrives are also nakedly self-promoting. These contemptible egotists and prima-donnas were very hard not to vomit on when I was at UCC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_man_about_a_dog
    Fair play to UCC for having the balls to defend free speech.

    Whatever one thinks about his views, letting him speak is in the best interests of all involved because it is only through allowing people like Irving to speak publicly that their views and opinions can be challenged and shown to be a load of BS.
    His views have been shown to be BS time and time again. The only person who gains from this is David Irving who gets free publicity and presumably free flights, accommodation and meals etc.

    He's so broke these days apparently that the prospect of a free meal and some cheap plonk is enough to get him to accept these gigs.
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    The last time he was invited I supported the protestors.

    Howver I think that if another big rally happened this time it would

    just give the ass hole too much free publicity which suits him down to

    the ground. I would prefer that he turns up to an empty lecture hall

    which in a way would reflect the empty headidness of the organisers

    who invited him; safe in their self congratulatory stunt orientated

    cliqish meddling.
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    He should be allowed to come here and have his say.

    Its about time someone stood up to these cranks who try to stifle any political opinion they don't agree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa

    Its about time someone stood up to these cranks who try to stifle any political opinion they don't agree with.
    Cranks who launch libel actions against all their critics, you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa
    He should be allowed to come here and have his say.

    Its about time someone stood up to these cranks who try to stifle any political opinion they don't agree with.
    Sure he should be allowed to come, but that doesn't mean that these bloody students have to go out of their way to invite him and feed the pathetic w*nker.

    When are these student societies going to realise that inviting Irving to speak isn't original or daring anymore?
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