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    MP Chris Hazzard...

    'With regards to the spectre of violence - we know and this is what we have been trying to get at - with the Good Friday Agreement we are dealing with an international peace accord.
    'There is a particular context in that agreement set down and embedded, it has nurtured peace and devolved government for the best part of 20 years.
    'But it's a peace process, it is not an event as such. It is always very fragile, it is especially fragile in a post Brexit context.'
    He said a return to border customs posts or any other hard infrastructure would spark a widespread outcry.
    He added: 'And I go even further, an awful lot of the focus has been on maybe dissident republican organisations and threats, but it is wider than that - it goes right down to a feeling of civil disobedience.



    Read more: Sinn Fein warns of vioelnce if hard Irish border returns | Daily Mail Online

    Mind you Shin Flake did say collapsing Stormont would threaten the peace process until they decided to collapse it themsleves alone...
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    The GFA is a done deal.

    It is not, despite how SF sold it, a mechanism purely to Unite Ireland.

    And where in the GFA was there any mention that remaining in the EU was a condition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by between the bridges View Post
    MP Chris Hazzard...

    'With regards to the spectre of violence - we know and this is what we have been trying to get at - with the Good Friday Agreement we are dealing with an international peace accord.
    'There is a particular context in that agreement set down and embedded, it has nurtured peace and devolved government for the best part of 20 years.
    'But it's a peace process, it is not an event as such. It is always very fragile, it is especially fragile in a post Brexit context.'
    He said a return to border customs posts or any other hard infrastructure would spark a widespread outcry.
    He added: 'And I go even further, an awful lot of the focus has been on maybe dissident republican organisations and threats, but it is wider than that - it goes right down to a feeling of civil disobedience.



    Read more: Sinn Fein warns of vioelnce if hard Irish border returns | Daily Mail Online

    Mind you Shin Flake did say collapsing Stormont would threaten the peace process until they decided to collapse it themsleves alone...
    Yada Yada, true peace will only come from Brexit - but not out of Europe but the f@ck out of Ireland

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    Quote Originally Posted by between the bridges View Post
    MP Chris Hazzard...

    'With regards to the spectre of violence - we know and this is what we have been trying to get at - with the Good Friday Agreement we are dealing with an international peace accord.
    'There is a particular context in that agreement set down and embedded, it has nurtured peace and devolved government for the best part of 20 years.
    'But it's a peace process, it is not an event as such. It is always very fragile, it is especially fragile in a post Brexit context.'
    He said a return to border customs posts or any other hard infrastructure would spark a widespread outcry.
    He added: 'And I go even further, an awful lot of the focus has been on maybe dissident republican organisations and threats, but it is wider than that - it goes right down to a feeling of civil disobedience.



    Read more: Sinn Fein warns of vioelnce if hard Irish border returns | Daily Mail Online

    Mind you Shin Flake did say collapsing Stormont would threaten the peace process until they decided to collapse it themsleves alone...
    Great. We need this final showdown to sort things out once and for all. I suggest a field in Blacklion. Knives, knuckle dusters, pitchforks, hurls and lambeg drums. No guns. Winner takes all.

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    Irish politician tells British that people in Ireland will stand up for their rights and oppose a hard border with civil disobedience and protests.

    Though it is possible any potential violence will come from the British and Unionism like it did the last time Irish people stood up for their rights.
    'The rich always betray the poor’. - Henry Joy McCracken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    The GFA is a done deal.

    It is not, despite how SF sold it, a mechanism purely to Unite Ireland.

    And where in the GFA was there any mention that remaining in the EU was a condition?
    Of course, the GFA is not a mechanism for a United Ireland. It secures the position of NI within the UK unless NI voters decide otherwise.

    This makes it all the more mystifying why attempts by Dublin to defend the GFA are met with accusations that it's a conspiracy to bring about a UI.

    The GFA makes much mention of the EU context although a literal reading of it doesn't require the UK to remain in the EU. However, there is no way one can maintain the structures and levels of cross-border cooperation described in the GFA if there's a hard border.
    Pero camarada, ya han pasado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac tíre View Post
    Irish politician tells British that people in Ireland will stand up for their rights and oppose a hard border with civil disobedience and protests.

    Though it is possible any potential violence will come from the British and Unionism like it did the last time Irish people stood up for their rights.
    Smash the barstewarts with the trojan equality...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    And where in the GFA was there any mention that remaining in the EU was a condition?
    It was in the Donegal version of the document.

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    Quote Originally Posted by between the bridges View Post
    Smash the barstewarts with the trojan equality...
    That is under the file 'Stormont'.

    Which you still ain't getting back until yiz buy every Fenian a fish supper every Tuesday night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mac tíre View Post
    That is under the file 'Stormont'.

    Which you still ain't getting back until yiz buy every Fenian a fish supper every Tuesday night.
    Pffft, for Cod and Ulster...
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