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    Default Non - nuclear war between Russia and US. Who would win?

    One for Sparky I think! I specify non- nuclear because in the alternative case we are all dead anyway. This is actually really difficult. How do they actually get at each other. Who invades who? Einstein called topics like these "exercise for the brain". Lets go dudes!

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    Whoever is losing pushes the button, no to use nukes makes no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northsideman View Post
    Whoever is losing pushes the button, no to use nukes makes no sense.
    Hmm. I know you are right but can we just have a little mind game? Though surely whoever pushes the button first ensures their own destruction? I was thinking a Russian invasion of Europe. Then what?

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    Then,
    massive American bases in South Korea and Japan, Afghanistan and Iraq

    as well is their navy bases in pacific
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    Define 'win'?

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    None of them.

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    Depends where it happens. If it were on a land boarder with Russia probably Russia, simple fact is they have more tanks (even if many are in storage and need to be reactivated as well as being many of those reserve tanks being quite old) then many EU/NATO countries have men. If it were at sea over an island then the US due to its much greater power projection capabilities.

    If the war did not go nuclear and could be dragged out then the US and its allies in Europe as thats where a ground war will happen, would nearly certainly win. But thats no guarantee, during the cold war when US and NATO allies were prepared for this war they believed the the only way to deal with a soviet "tank invasion" according to a former British tank officer I have spoken to, was to funnel them into killing zones and just as they were about to be over run hit them with tactical nukes. I don't see how they could deal with the same problem any differently today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gleeful View Post
    Define 'win'?
    Gosh ,this is tough. I must admit I assumed China would stay neutral rather than get blown away by either side. This would negate US bases in SE Asia. I stress again , I visualised a Russian invasion of Europe. Starting in the Baltic states and then E . Europe. Then into the west. US reaction? National nuclear suicide? I really don't know. Napoleon and Hitler underestimated the fighting abilities of the Russians. Broaden my mind. Where is Sparky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by idaworldbeaters View Post
    One for Sparky I think! I specify non- nuclear because in the alternative case we are all dead anyway. This is actually really difficult. How do they actually get at each other. Who invades who? Einstein called topics like these "exercise for the brain". Lets go dudes!
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