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    Default What did SF achieve?

    For decades Sinn Féin supported a murderour campaign by the self-styled Irish Repubican Army (IRA) which resulted in the death of hundreds of civilians. It was, according to SF lore, part of the struggle for the freedom of Ireland.

    Now, after 1,000s of lives lost what's been achieved?

    A United Ireland, no they've decided to let that be,
    An end to British occupation of a part of Ireland, ignored that too,
    British soldiers in Ireland, they're still here
    A British police force? - Well, SF administer it now...
    A British parliament in Stormont, well, they're involved in administering that too.


    What did the 'armed struggle' achieve? Why were Sinn Féin opposed to running British institutions in Ireland for decades but now they're happy to do so?

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    Being part of one of the oldest revolutionary and anti imperialist movements in Europe. Being a beacon to oppressed people all over the world.

    Not being fianna fail.

    Those are a few of the achievements I'm most proud of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomáis Joad
    Being part of one of the oldest revolutionary and anti imperialist movements in Europe. Being a beacon to oppressed people all over the world.

    Not being fianna fail.

    Those are a few of the achievements I'm most proud of.
    And what about:

    A United Ireland,
    An end to British occupation of a part of Ireland,
    British soldiers in Ireland,
    A British police force in Ireland,
    A British parliament in Stormont?

    Wasn't that what the 'armed struggle' was all about? Are you proud that Sinn Féin members are administering British laws in Ireland and co-ordinating British policing in Ireland?

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    Some working class lads got nice suits out of it.

    Come on they are entitled to their views and their aims, where I disagree with them is their means of execution. (in all senses)

    You could ask what has FF achieved etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomáis Joad
    Being part of one of the oldest revolutionary and anti imperialist movements in Europe. .
    Why not join the Communists, or the Anarchists? They are older.

    Being a beacon to oppressed people all over the world.
    Ha ha ha.

    Not being fianna fail.
    Neither are Fine Gael

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squire Allworthy
    Some working class lads got nice suits out of it.
    Let's not foget the mobile phones and the Skodas that Peter Robinson bought for them...

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    actually the Republican movement finds it roots even before 1798. So while its impossible to put a date on the birth of any ideology or movement it is not really true to say anarchism or communism are older.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomáis Joad
    actually the Republican movement finds it roots even before 1798. So while its impossible to put a date on the birth of any ideology or movement it is not really true to say anarchism or communism are older.
    So you're talking about 'Republicanism' as an ideology. Well, without getting into yet another turgid debate about who's legitimate or not, let's just say that it's highly debateable whether the Provos are the only true heirs of Tone

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    If you've ever beeen particularly close to sinn fein leadership figures you'll notice there suits are not all that nice. Armani they are most certainly not.

    Adams rarely wears a suit at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubsthcentralboy
    What did the 'armed struggle' achieve?
    The Chuckle Brothers.

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