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    Default Why Hasn't Ireland recognised Palestine yet?

    In recent years, both houses of the Oireachtas have voted to call on the government to recognise Palestine as a State. In 2011, Ireland gave diplomatic status to the Palestinian representation in Dublin, yet the State has not gone the full mile in recognising Palestine outright.

    Many EU countries such as Sweden and Poland recognise Palestine.

    Given that there is seemingly large support for Irish recognition of Palestine, both within the Oireachtas and society at large, why has this been unforthcoming?
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    In two words, nuclear war.
    History will record with the greatest astonishment that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos Danger View Post
    In two words, nuclear war.
    Snivelling cowards you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comet View Post
    Snivelling cowards you mean.
    According to some on here, Trump's acceptance of a congratulatory phone call from the leader of a place in similar circumstances will lead to nuclear war.

    This obviously means that Dáil Éireann fully recognizing Palestine as a State would mean that Bibi would have the nukes in the air before the last Tá was cast.

    Then, ya know, the Brits would see them on their radar and launch a counter strike, which would lead to the Russians having a pop back, and in turn the Chinese. Not wanting to feel left out, the US would simply have to go off. See where this is going?

    We'll all be baffled, trumped, tethered and cropped.

    History will record with the greatest astonishment that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening.

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    The Word according to Wiki.

    In January 2011, Ireland accorded the Palestinian delegation in Dublin diplomatic status.[267] A few months later, their Foreign Affairs Minister stated that Ireland would "lead the charge" in recognising Palestinian statehood, but that it would not come until the PNA was in full and sole control over its territories.[268] In October 2014, the Upper House of the Irish Parliament unanimously passed a motion calling on the Government to recognise the State of Palestine.[269] In December 2014, the Dail Éireann (Ireland's lower house) followed suit.[270]
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    Palestine is a bad joke. The entire Middle East needs to be redrawn.
    Its not just Israel that should cede land to the Palestinians.
    The whole neighborhood is an unsustainable throwback to colonial times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Alda View Post
    Palestine is a bad joke. The entire Middle East needs to be redrawn.
    Its not just Israel that should cede land to the Palestinians.
    The whole neighborhood is an unsustainable throwback to colonial times.


    The Israelis are probably thinking more in terms of everybody else ceding land to them
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    The Palestinians don't even recognize Palestine.

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    Growing divisions within Fatah, divsions between Fatah and Hamas - when you read a story like this, you realise that the main obstacles to the emergence of a Palestinian state are Palestinian leaders.

    Reports In Arab Press: 'Abbas Resisted Arab League Pressure To Appoint Successor
    Young Palestinians are the first victims of Fatah corruption and misrule.

    A quick chat with young Palestinians, including Fatah members [...] will reveal a driving sense of betrayal. [...] They speak of the PA as a corrupt and incompetent body that is managed by "mafia leaders." Others see the Palestinian Authority is a pawn in the hands of Israel and the US. More importantly, many of the[m] believe that it is only a matter of time before Palestinians launch an intifada against the PA.
    "The Palestinian Authority is controlled by thieves who do not care about us," complained Hassan Abu Ayyash, a young man who describes himself as a "Fatah activist"[...].

    "They are getting hundreds of millions of dollars from the international community and distributing them among themselves and their sons. Look at all the big buildings and fancy restaurants and bars in Ramallah. Where do they get all the money to purchase expensive cars?"
    Palestinians: Anarchy Returns to the West Bank

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    It might have something to do with our Minister for Foreign Affairs, Charlie Flanagan, being a member of Oireachtas Friends of Israel or the craven attitude of the Crony Parties to their betters in the US and EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    In recent years, both houses of the Oireachtas have voted to call on the government to recognise Palestine as a State. In 2011, Ireland gave diplomatic status to the Palestinian representation in Dublin, yet the State has not gone the full mile in recognising Palestine outright.

    Many EU countries such as Sweden and Poland recognise Palestine.

    Given that there is seemingly large support for Irish recognition of Palestine, both within the Oireachtas and society at large, why has this been unforthcoming?
    There is no such state as Palestine.

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