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    Default Manner in which referenda are held and fixed term Parliament?

    Truly puzzling where this is coming from or really dark FG forces at play? An upcoming Citizens’ Assembly will tackle a couple of "issues" under the Chairwomanship of Justice Mary Laffoy.

    Supreme Court judge to chair assembly on repealing Eighth Amendment

    The Eighth Amendment of the Constitution;
    How we best respond to the challenges and opportunities of an ageing population;
    Fixed-term parliaments;
    The manner in which referendums are held;
    How the State can make Ireland a leader in tackling climate change.

    The Brits have fixed Parliament therefore we should? Nah. As for referenda, a hidden attack to yet again rid the State of that pesky McKenna Judgement?
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    The assembly will comprise the chairperson and 99 citizens randomly selected on the basis of being representative of the Irish electorate in terms of gender, age and regional spread.

    Pity there wasn't a JR over the "constitutional convention".
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    I would not put any faith in the impartiality of this assembly

    It will 100% certain recommend a Referendum on the 8th

    This is just a exercise in manipulation

    IMO a wholesale Repeal of the 8th has very little chance of being passed

    The devil is in the detail I suppose

    - but there will be no angels blowing trumpets for this to pass....
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    Get rid of the whole thing and re-instate the one party state we had during the celtic tiger era.

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    I don't see how a fixed term parliament would work under our system. It does seem to be nothing more than typical copy cat thinking.

    What we will get out of this assembly is a referendum on the 8th, and another, on some trivial issue that will attempt to give cover to the fact that the assembly was all about the 8th in the first place.
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    Manner in which referenda are held


    it was strange thing for the Department Minister for Environment Community and Local Government Alan Kelly at the time to propose a referenfum on the age of the president https://www.oireachtas.ie/viewdoc.as.../document1.htm and then have no real push from anyone in the government parties to argue for it (or against it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostexpectation View Post
    Manner in which referenda are held


    it was strange thing for the Department Minister for Environment Community and Local Government Alan Kelly at the time to propose a referenfum on the age of the president https://www.oireachtas.ie/viewdoc.as.../document1.htm and then have no real push from anyone in the government parties to argue for it (or against it).
    The Irish media pretty well ignored that referendum and concentrated on getting the other one passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiel View Post
    The Irish media pretty well ignored that referendum and concentrated on getting the other one passed.
    so the media didn't propose it the gov did
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostexpectation View Post
    so the media didn't prpose it the gov did
    The government also proposed the abolition of the Seanad but the media conducted a campaign to maintain the Seanad as a bolt hole for their cronies.

    Younger people who would have been made eligible to stand for president did not vote for that referendum as it was not supported by media.

    Media pretty well decide.

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    Fixed term parliaments are just another step along the way to a dictatorship.

    We have been hearing from the ignorant and unread long enough about a government being elected to rule rather than govern and now they are trying to cement that affront to liberty and democracy into law! The blueshirts really have no idea about a fair and just society governed by the people for the people, until, that is, their dream state bites them on the ass and they can't do anything about it, then you'll hear the howls of anguish! Just imagine their faces if SF got five unshiftable years in office!
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