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    In light of the McLaren report and its conclusions that Russia had a state sponsored doping scheme and that also used the security services ( FSB ) to help carry it out, should Russia be kicked out of Rio 2016 Olympics?

    Russian doping: Olympic chiefs to decide on sanctions after McLaren report - BBC Sport

    Russia's sports ministry made sure positive urine samples disappeared from late 2011 to 2015 to improve the country's international sporting performance.

    It was supported by the country's security service (FSB), the Russian Anti-Doping Agency (Rusada) and the Center of Sports Preparation of National Teams of Russia (CSP),

    When this was not enough to hide doping - such as at an international event like Sochi 2014 - positive urine samples were switched with clean ones from a freezer through a "mouse hole", with FSB agents on hand in the Sochi laboratory disguised as maintenance workers.

    The claims in detail:

    Russia decided to cheat following the "very abysmal" medal count of 15 at the Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics;
    It began making positive drug tests disappear from its anti-doping laboratories in late 2011;
    Before the Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia created a storage bank of clean, frozen urine;
    Russia's security service, the FSB, worked in a building next to the Sochi laboratory, swapping positive urine samples for clean negative ones through a "mouse hole", adding table salt to make them weigh the same;
    A key FSB agent had access to the Sochi anti-doping laboratory, disguised as a sewage and plumbing contractor;
    But, in swapping urine samples, the FSB agents left miniscule tool marks on the bottles - later found by McLaren's investigators using a microscope;
    The Moscow laboratory destroyed 8,000 samples it held that were dated prior to 10 September 2014.

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    Yes. its pretty clear what they were up to.

    But the whole thing is a farce anyway.

    I would boo any Olympian I would see on the street for supporting the farce. They should all boycott it because of the drugs.

    Also how many countries should be banned for political reasons?

    Here is just a few off the top of my head.

    Ireland-team is full of West Brits
    Arab world-for their treatment of women.
    Israel-by trolling us all by being a democracy when we all know the Arab world will never be democratic.
    Canada-cruelty to animals-seal hunting.

    etc etc.
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    Is there any top athletes left who are not taking drugs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHB78 View Post
    In light of the McLaren report and its conclusions that Russia had a state sponsored doping scheme and that also used the security services ( FSB ) to help carry it out, should Russia be kicked out of Rio 2016 Olympics?

    Russian doping: Olympic chiefs to decide on sanctions after McLaren report - BBC Sport
    Absolutely.
    Not DOB

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnypockets View Post
    Is there any top athletes left who are not taking drugs?
    The drug testing must be quite hard to get around these days if russia needed to resort to such methods to beat it. So how are athletes from other nations that test their athletes regularly beating it?

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    American laboratories covered up false negative results at 1984 Los Angeles games.
    This coverup was at a national/state level.

    The war on sport doping is I'm afraid a lost cause because those devising their cheating are way ahead of those who are doing the checking.

    Big business is in on sports doping. Make no mistake. Big pharma especially so.
    Politics.ie moderators should moderate instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHB78 View Post
    The drug testing must be quite hard to get around these days if russia needed to resort to such methods to beat it. So how are athletes from other nations that test their athletes regularly beating it?
    The drug takers are always ahead of those trying to catch them. And always will be. They are continually producing new drugs which then need new tests to catch them. They will always be a step or more ahead. It's only if athletes/coaches try to do it on the cheap or get lazy that they will be caught. It's time to change the whole direction if authorities really want to stop cheating.(but they don't)

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    Yes absolutely
    The cover up of of drug test results of Russian athletes in Sochi was carried out by the FSB and likely to have been ordered by Putin himself.
    Proof of corruption at the highest level

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    No.

    Let athletes use all the drugs they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse View Post
    Yes absolutely
    The cover up of of drug test results of Russian athletes in Sochi was carried out by the FSB and likely to have been ordered by Putin himself.
    Proof of corruption at the highest level
    and in the 1984 LA games , ???

    This stinks of American political involvement

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