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    What the hell?

    E-mail and chat data to be stored 'within a month'

    Records of e-mails and internet chat messages sent and received by Irish residents - and the times they log on and off the internet - will have to be stored for three years. The scheme will be implemented within a month.

    The Irish Times has learned the Department of Justice intends to effect a controversial EU data retention directive affecting e-mail and web usage "within a month", according to a department spokeswoman.

    http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/frontp ... 60420.html

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    What the hell?

    E-mail and chat data to be stored 'within a month'

    Records of e-mails and internet chat messages sent and received by Irish residents - and the times they log on and off the internet - will have to be stored for three years. The scheme will be implemented within a month.

    The Irish Times has learned the Department of Justice intends to effect a controversial EU data retention directive affecting e-mail and web usage "within a month", according to a department spokeswoman.

    http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/frontp ... 60420.html
    Been in the pipeline for about 5-6 years. A lot of this is from McDowell (article from 2005):

    After pushing a framework decision on data retention at the EU, Ireland's Government has decided to focus on its national parliament and to pass a law on data retention there. Data retention was snuck into the Criminal Justice (Terrorist Offences) Act, first introduced in 2002, in the final hours before the Bill became law in February 2005.

    The law now calls for three years data retention at all phone companies that provide fixed line and mobile services. The obligation does not extend to more complex information such as location data.

    In April 2002, the Minister for Public Enterprise issued directions at the request of the Minister of Justice to oblige service providers to retain data for at least three years. The Government argued that this was a necessary temporary bridging of the gap between the transposition of the EU Directive on privacy and electronic communications into Irish law. This is misleading because the 2002 Directive did not require data retention.
    There is now such a Directive, but our lovely government is going well in excess of what's required:

    The Directive requires member states of the EU to pass into law an obligation for telecoms providers to retain phone, email and web traffic data for up to two years. Opposed by civil rights groups, the Directive was passed in order to help states to combat crime and terrorism.
    Our government is taking a case in the European Court of Justice because "we" wanted "tougher" rules, and didn't get them. Don't let them claim they're being forced into this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asi-Irish
    What the hell?

    E-mail and chat data to be stored 'within a month'

    Records of e-mails and internet chat messages sent and received by Irish residents - and the times they log on and off the internet - will have to be stored for three years. The scheme will be implemented within a month.

    The Irish Times has learned the Department of Justice intends to effect a controversial EU data retention directive affecting e-mail and web usage "within a month", according to a department spokeswoman.

    http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/frontp ... 60420.html
    This is really unimportant - of far more concern to our nation and our future, to our privacy and our economic and political independence is why Bertie does not have a tax complinace certificate.

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    This is really unimportant - of far more concern to our nation and our future, to our privacy and our economic and political independence is why Bertie does not have a tax complinace certificate.
    Shea right it is...
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    I thought they already did this anyway.

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    am i the only one who sees the shed load of fun you could have with this?

    we could all start emailing our mates with stuff like " look just tell osama, if he can get me the stuff i can get it into the dail nae bother"



    personally i reckon the system will probably shut down with all the porn and viagra spam !
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    Still though, its an alarming precedent.

    Mind you, the Brits and the US have been doing this for years, so the irish government is really behind the times.....

    Although, from my (limited) readings of the EU treaties, it would appear that this should fall foul of the right to privacy enshrined in the document. Unless of course this is under the terrorism get out clause.

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    it won't be recording the actually words of the communication... we leave that to the americans
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    Is there someone with the abaility to bring this to Europe?

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    How can this work? I'm I'm sending an e-mail using, say, a gmail server located in the US, how can the Internet Service Provider here know and record that fact?

    What about when I use a VPN network to access my office computer, thats an encrypted connection.

    BT (Ireland) may know when I log on and off the internet, but how can they tell what I'm actually doing online?

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