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    Default Corbyn, a serial rebeller...demands conformity of thought and loyalty from Labour

    Corbyn, in testament to his Stalinist-Marxist lineage, has been setting up a 'party within a party' , including a secretive intelligence and loyalty monitoring function

    Jeremy Corbyn critics fear

    Sources at the top of the party said there were fears that an emboldened Corbyn would now try to stamp his authority on the party and “pick off” dissenters. Frontbenchers have already been emailed with a reminder of their duty to respect the leadership’s wishes, it is understood. Corbyn’s office has also made it clear to the shadow cabinet that they “know who has been briefing” against the leader.


    Can Jeremy Corbyn crack the whip? - BBC News
    During 13 years of Labour government - between 1997 and 2010 - Mr Corbyn was the party's most rebellious MP, defying his party's whip 428 times.
    Can such a serial rebel...impose authoritarianism with STASI-esque overtones...on a party that he never really supported...and only gained its leadership due to revolutionary 'entryists' who have infiltrated the party ?

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    Its called principle. "Food bank Britain" needs to be rescued from the vampires. There is a lot wrong with Corbyn but this isnt it. Oh and the UK has been sliding into a police state since Thatcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    Can such a serial rebel...impose authoritarianism with STASI-esque overtones...on a party that he never really supported...and only gained its leadership due to revolutionary 'entryists' who have infiltrated the party ?

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    Corbyn and co have become the biggest hypocrites in British politics.

    They've spent decades exercising their right to rebel and vote against various leaders - now absolute loyalty is demanded & his closest allies call for the sackings & expulsions of any MPs who do not support every action of the leader.

    It's rank hypocrisy and indefensible by all but the most deluded.
    I am in line for a smiting probably sooner than I expect. Apparently.

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    Labour is no longer Blair's project. He took the party away from the people

    who had voted for a certain set of principals all their lives.

    He won 3 elections but............it ended so badly.

    Now the 'little' people want their voice to be heard and they have decided

    that Corbyn is their best leader so we must go along with what the majority

    want. It's called democracy.

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    Get real, the labour party is meant to offer an alternative, not sit and cheer on the tories (like Hilarious Benn)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LooseCannon View Post
    Get real, the labour party is meant to offer an alternative, not sit and cheer on the tories (like Hilarious Benn)
    If they were meant to vote a certain way, then he shouldn't have given them a free vote.
    I am in line for a smiting probably sooner than I expect. Apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    Corbyn, in testament to his Stalinist-Marxist lineage, has been setting up a 'party within a party' , including a secretive intelligence and loyalty monitoring function
    Do you really think this is anything like as strong as the authoritarian grip Blair had on the party? If you're looking for a totalitarian leadership bent, look at Blair, Mandelson and Campbell (grudgingly supported by Brown). It's ham-fisted leadership by Corbyn, sure, but this is just a ripple after the Blairite years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainmaker View Post
    If they were meant to vote a certain way, then he shouldn't have given them a free vote.
    Which doesn't quite conform to the notion of Corbyn demanding conformity. This carry on Iraq will see him very much vindicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyLou View Post
    Labour is no longer Blair's project. He took the party away from the people

    who had voted for a certain set of principals all their lives.

    He won 3 elections but............it ended so badly.

    Now the 'little' people want their voice to be heard and they have decided

    that Corbyn is their best leader so we must go along with what the majority

    want. It's called democracy.
    Oh please, it is absolute nonsense that Blair somehow stole the Labour party from the left. The left tore the party apart in the 1980s and made it unelectable for almost 20 years.

    By contrast Blair gave also gave the party the three biggest electoral victories it has ever had, including two landslides - that's democracy. He never lost an election.

    In Blairs party the likes of Livingstone & Corbyn & co were tolerated - they were never threatened with expulsion or bombarded with abuse and threats for voting against the party leader.
    I am in line for a smiting probably sooner than I expect. Apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farnaby View Post
    It's ham-fisted leadership by Corbyn, sure, but this is just a ripple after the Blairite years.
    It tolerated the likes of Corbyn and Livinstone & co routinely voting against the party and criticizing the leader without expelling them.
    I am in line for a smiting probably sooner than I expect. Apparently.

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