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    A fascinating article I came across, written by a German academic. It discusses the classic theories of geopolitics and how they now impact on the war in Syria.

    It was Sir Halford Mackinder who developed the "Heartland Theory". This theory argued that whoever controlled Eastern Europe could control the "Heartland" of Eurasia. The Heartland is a vast area from the Volga to the Yangtze river in China and from Tibet to the Arctic. And controlling this area could lead to world domination.

    Mackinder's student, the American Nicholas Spykman, later modified Mackinder's theory to argue that it was the "Rimland" of Eurasia, not the Heartland, that was the most decisive zone. The Rimland runs from Scandinavia through the centre of Eastern Europe down into the Middle East and then along the shores of the Indian Ocean and on to Indo-China and the coast of China. Spykman argued that Maritime powers such as America could dominate this "Rimland" area. It is this "Rimland" area that has seen many American interventions since the beginning of the Cold War.

    Now Russia and its allies have directly challenged America in the Rimland.
    It appears that China and Russia perceive themselves in a common position of co-dominance over the South Asian realm, and their fierce ‘no’ against an intervention by western powers in Syria can well be seen in the sense of a political-international-legal doctrine of an, at least hinted at, ban on interventions by powers from outside the region, directed chiefly at America.
    An actual victory by Russia and its allies in Syria could have the severest consequences for America's prestige and freedom of action in the "Rimland". It looks like the Syrian war may continue and is already becoming a proxxy war between Russia and America.
    Washington cannot, simply in their very own interest, afford to leave these Eurasian Rim Land regions to their fate, let alone to the two Asian world powers.

    Whoever Controls Eurasia Controls the World
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    Oh Christ, not Paranoid and his 19th century "World Island" bolloxology. And a link to the terminally deranged "Russian Insider". Yawn. Change the channel.

    Anyway, active discussion here with a coherent OP: http://www.politics.ie/forum/foreign...ar-thread.html

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    Just to give you an idea of how deranged "Russia Insider" (it is largely a news aggregator of the intellectually feeble who write for RT and Sputnik) is here's an article alleging the Lusitania and MH17 were both destroyed for the same reason, as a pretext for war:

    The MH17 Report: Lusitania Sinking Déjà Vu?

    What the fukk am I reading?! And yes, Irish headcase Finian Cunningham's insanity makes regular appearances on RI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    Oh Christ, not Paranoid and his 19th century "World Island" bolloxology. And a link to the terminally deranged "Russian Insider". Yawn. Change the channel.

    Anyway, active discussion here with a coherent OP: http://www.politics.ie/forum/foreign...ar-thread.html
    Coherent LOL more like agree with Ren84 or you will be called names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LobsterG View Post
    Coherent LOL more like agree with Ren84 or you will be called names.

    This OP is pretty interesting, I have had similar thoughts, it would explain the sheer audacity of the recent Iraqi/Afghan/Libyan/botched Syrian campaigns. It is also when Iran will be next if some of the loonier GOP candidates get elected, or Hilary.
    You don't think an "academic" banging on about "Rimland" (WTF?) isn't in any way nuts? Sweet suffering Christ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    Just to give you an idea of how deranged "Russia Insider" (it is largely a news aggregator of the intellectually feeble who write for RT and Sputnik) is here's an article alleging the Lusitania and MH17 were both destroyed for the same reason, as a pretext for war:

    The MH17 Report: Lusitania Sinking Déjà Vu?

    What the fukk am I reading?! And yes, Irish headcase Finian Cunningham's insanity makes regular appearances on RI.

    The article is from Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, one of the biggest newspapers in Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    You don't think an "academic" banging on about "Rimland" (WTF?) isn't in any way nuts? Sweet suffering Christ!
    ''pivot areas'' and ''rim lands'' aside I'd agree with the rest.
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    A fascinating article I came across, written by a German academic. It discusses the classic theories of geopolitics and how they now impact on the war in Syria.

    It was Sir Halford Mackinder who developed the "Heartland Theory". This theory argued that whoever controlled Eastern Europe could control the "Heartland" of Eurasia. The Heartland is a vast area from the Volga to the Yangtze river in China and from Tibet to the Arctic. And controlling this area could lead to world domination.

    Mackinder's student, the American, Nicholas Spykman, later modified Mackinder's theory to argue that it was the "Rimland" of Eurasia, not the Heartland, that was the most decisive zone. The Rimland runs from Scandinavia through the centre of Eastern Europe down into the Middle East and then along the shores of the Indian Ocean and on to Indo-China and the coast of China. Spykman argued that Maritime powers such as America could dominate this "Rimland" area. It is this "Rimland" area that has seen many American interventions since the beginning of the Cold War.

    Now Russia and its allies have directly challenged America in the Rimland.

    An actual victory by Russia and its allies in Syria could have the severest consequences for America's prestige and freedom of action in the "Rimland". It looks like the Syrian war may continue and is already becoming a proxxy war between Russia and America.


    Whoever Controls Eurasia Controls the World
    Decent analysis....................

    Russia has already signed Turkey up by South Stream Gas Pipeline with Iran also allowing its Oil and Gas to go via Turkey.

    10% of Turkish imports are from Russia and 4 % of its Exports, add in Chinese, Iranian and Iraq then its starts to be a big number.

    Perhaps BRICs countrys are playing out their own strategy.

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    The proxy war in Syria between Russia and America.

    America has given tacit approval for arming a jihadi alliance


    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/wo...ikes.html?_r=0
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    The overall theory has been invalidated by the jet propulsion engine.

    Zbigniew Brzezynski believes in it though. The theory is useful for his paranoid mind.
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