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    Tonight's Prime Time program dealt with fuel smuggling and diesel laundering. I was told last year that a certain prominent fuel launderer is never tackled because it would bring down the peace process. I didn't understand why until I saw tonight's program. I didn't realise it was so brazen and unconcealed until I saw this evening's program. It seems obvious that it is seen as a necessary evil.
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    Ah I was about to create a similar thread on this!

    I would have a few comments/questions about the program if people could answer it.

    I felt the program was stretching a lot to make this issue important when it really did not seem that big a deal. I do understand that assault/threats/murder which were mentioned are a big deal, but the actual smuggling of fuel does not seem so massive.

    Who is losing money? Is it the British government, petrol stations?
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    Excellent programme.

    Its essentially a VAT scam and VAT scams dont make great news stories but this is just sooo obvious that if its not tackled every Tom, Dick and Harry will reckon the VAT men are asleep and nows the time to fleece them.

    They will have to act.

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    Didn't they say something like 5% of the (official) NI market share going through one depot? Must watch again to see exactly what they said. The county councils in the border counties are also effected because their budgets are used cleaning up the sludge. The money is going into the black economy which can never be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HanleyS
    Tonight's Prime Time program dealt with fuel smuggling and diesel laundering. I was told last year that a certain prominent fuel launderer is never tackled because it would bring down the peace process. I didn't understand why until I saw tonight's program. I didn't realise it was so brazen and unconcealed until I saw this evening's program. It seems obvious that it is seen as a necessary evil.

    Maybe its because this same fuel smuggler knows information that could destabalise the peace process.

    Remember this same fuel smuggler has never been jailed, which seems extraordinary and when arrested by the SAS and was armed was not shot, nor ever targetted by loyalists.
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    Has the person you are speaking of ever been convicted of smuggling/laundering?

    I was trying to respect the DGDS rule.
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    We should all campaign to end partition to put these coyboys out of business

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaintingMedium
    Who is losing money? Is it the British government, petrol stations?
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    The problem for me is that the additives that the put in which wreck cars engines over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaintingMedium

    Who is losing money? Is it the British government, petrol stations?
    Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs (HMRC) bears the entire brunt of the scam in foregone excise duty. It was an interesting programme, but their failure to put the hard questions to HMRC struck me as quite odd. Green and red diesel scams aside, fuel smuggling is not directly the responsibility of the Garda, the Revenue or oil companies. As the British Exchequer is losing out it's UK state agencies that should be cracking down. The programme didn't make this as explicitly clear as it should have.

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