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Thread: Should There Be Holocaust Laws For Ireland?

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    Germans have a tendency towards such violence and need for control so it is right that it is illegal there. They should not be forgiven or let off the hook. However, no need for such a law here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    Germans have a tendency towards such violence and need for control so it is right that it is illegal there. They should not be forgiven or let off the hook. However, no need for such a law here.
    What on earth? Most Germans alive today had nothing to do with the Shoah at all.
    In Jerusalem, I dressed my wounds and breathed my sorrows
    And carried the soul in my palm, For an Arab Palestine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    Germans have a tendency towards such violence and need for control so it is right that it is illegal there. They should not be forgiven or let off the hook. However, no need for such a law here.
    Neither should he brits be let off for their many holocausts including the famine?
    ‘Sometimes you need [lie] to get the results for things you think are essential #330 Wiesenthal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McTell View Post
    Has to be said that Douglas hyde also regretted hitler's death. When the war ended, and the allies took over the german legation in dublin (as they were then in control of germany), they found Dan Breen's letter of april 1945 wishing the fuhrer a happy birthday.


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    It shouldn't surprise, people believed the Allied propaganda reluctantly as similar propaganda about the 'evil Germans' from WW1 had been revealed as lies after the war.

    The similarities between the WW1 lies and WW2 'truths' are papered over or left quietly to one side today.

    To question these realities is verboten
    ‘Sometimes you need [lie] to get the results for things you think are essential #330 Wiesenthal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golah veNekhar View Post
    One of the massive problems with Jewish culture which often comes as a surprise to non-Jews is the attitude to history, the complete lack of concern about it is often incredibly startling to non-Jews particularly those from Christian backgrounds, indeed in Ashkenaz and Yiddish areas all Jews were banned from reading history books because it was considered a waste of time up until the 18 th century when a particularly liberal Rabbi ruled that Jewish men could read history books but that they could only do so while sitting on the toilet! Utter and total bullsh*t.

    There is a quote on the fifty shekel note in Israel which says that Jews ever since being exiled in 66 A.D. have hungered to return to Eretz Israel and the vast majority of Jews are fine even though it is a complete lie, and how do you know it is a lie? Ever heard of Simon bar Kokhba or Simon Son of a Star? Well he led a far more important insurgency between 132-136 AD. You will say that this is when the supposed "Exile" happened than? Uh well no it didn't and how do we know that? We know that because of the Mishnah. In truth there was never an "Exile"- Jews were banned from entering Jerusalem between 66 AD and the Arab invasion but that is something completely different. Israeli Jews base most of their identity on something that never happened and it is incredibly simple to discover never happened. Historical rubbish.

    Your quote is extremely interesting and it backs up things that Gilad Atzmon has being saying. Neurotic Jews being neurotically censorious on issues pertaining to Jews in the media insured that it is only the NSDAP who were talking openly about Jewish issues in public and of course we all know about what tragedies this led to. So maybe Gilad Atzmon is not being so crazy after all when he expresses deep fears that the carry on of the likes of the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism could lead to a re-run of the Shoah? Maybe he is actually learning the lessons of history? Combatting anti-Semitism could lead to another holocaust? You utter gobshyte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RasherHash View Post
    It shouldn't surprise, people believed the Allied propaganda reluctantly as similar propaganda about the 'evil Germans' from WW1 had been revealed as lies after the war.

    The similarities between the WW1 lies and WW2 'truths' are papered over or left quietly to one side today.

    To question these realities is verboten

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    That's the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting na-na-na-naaaaaa
    ‘Sometimes you need [lie] to get the results for things you think are essential #330 Wiesenthal.

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    No I do not say Clan that fighting anti-Semitism could lead to another Shoah- what I am saying is the manner in which the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism which they define as encompassing a huge amount of things combat it could actually lead to an explosion of murderous anti-Semitism. For instance look at the way that they destroyed Kevin Myers' career over a clumsy complement he was trying to pay to Jews and look at how they pressured the CPS to re-open a case against a former British Army officer who served in Afghanistan for mouthing off against Jewish influence in Britain in public.

    When did the Exile of the Jews from Palestine happen in your reckoning Clan?
    In Jerusalem, I dressed my wounds and breathed my sorrows
    And carried the soul in my palm, For an Arab Palestine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RasherHash View Post
    That's the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting na-na-na-naaaaaa
    Quote Originally Posted by Golah veNekhar View Post
    No I do not say Clan that fighting anti-Semitism could lead to another Shoah- what I am saying is the manner in which the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism which they define as encompassing a huge amount of things combat it could actually lead to an explosion of murderous anti-Semitism. For instance look at the way that they destroyed Kevin Myers' career over a clumsy complement he was trying to pay to Jews and look at how they pressured the CPS to re-open a case against a former British Army officer who served in Afghanistan for mouthing off against Jewish influence in Britain in public.

    When did the Exile of the Jews from Palestine happen in your reckoning Clan?

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    Such a law would be a solution in search of a problem, in the sense that hardly anyone denies the Holocaust in this country. By passing such a law, you are implying that Holocaust denial is widespread here, or that without such a law we would go full-on Nazi.

    It was Germany and its Quislings that killed 6 million Jews. Ireland was not in the slightest bit involved in it. Germany needed laws like this to exorcise Nazi ideology from them after WW2. We do not because we would never do such a thing.
    "A great city is not to be confounded with a populous one." - Aristotle

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