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    Default Fr Hoban doesn't have faith in the holy spirit to rustle up new vocations

    Caught this guy on Newstalk 106, Fr Hogan said that praying to the "holy spirit" wasnt working in relation to getting new vocations , maybe he hasnt considered "god" is punishing the Irish church, could it not be God's plan?

    it must be gas at their planning meetings "so whats your proposal to increase vocations?".... "how about a bit of an old pray?"....annywaay


    So whats the future with 75% less priests in 20 years, Skype on a big screen? Holographic priests to say mass? will they start sourcing priests from Africa which could introduce a new cycle of abusive or sexually active priests given that they are not adverse to cover ups over there?



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    There are currently 4,000 priests in Ireland but in 20 years time, with the greying of the clergy and the collapse in vocations, Fr Hoban says Ireland will be "effectively priestless".

    In the past 23 years, the number of clerical students has declined from 525 at Maynooth, Cloniffe, Thurles, Kilkennny, Waterford, Wexford, Carlow, Belfast, All Hallows, and Rome to just 70 seminarians at colleges in Maynooth, Belfast, and Rome.

    Accusing Church leaders such as Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin of being in denial, he warns "we have a decade to come to terms with this crisis".

    In Nov 2012, Archbishop Martin said that "for the moment what we have to do is find worthy candidates who able to live as celibate priests... I believe that there are candidates there".

    Asking questions about the effect of celibacy on vocations, Fr Hoban says too many priests feel disconnected, lonely, and isolated.

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    Has Father Hogan considered the very dominereing possibility that /god as he understands him does not exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IbrahaimMohamad View Post
    Has Father Hogan considered the very dominereing possibility that /god as he understands him does not exist?
    he sounded a bit miserable that he missed out on getting his leg over in this life....the thought that it was for nought would break the poor lad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan2010 View Post
    Caught this guy on Newstalk 106, Fr Hogan said that praying to the "holy spirit" wasnt working in relation to getting new vocations , maybe he hasnt considered "god" is punishing the Irish church, could it not be God's plan?

    it must be gas at their planning meetings "so whats your proposal to increase vocations?".... "how about a bit of an old pray?"....annywaay
    So whats the future with 75% less priests in 20 years, Skype on a big screen? Holographic priests to say mass? will they start sourcing priests from Africa which could introduce a new cycle of abusive or sexually active priests given that they are not adverse to cover ups over there?

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    Numbers enrolling in Irish seminaries are up in recent years compared to earlier in the 2000's.

    Numbers enrolling in other locations appear to be increasing too
    CARA reports U.S. seminary theology numbers highest since 1988-89 | National Catholic Reporter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan2010 View Post
    he sounded a bit miserable that he missed out on getting his leg over in this life....the thought that it was for nought would break the poor lad


    It's very difficult for a lad who is not obsessed in burying the lad in a felleow male to admit that there is no virtue in celebacy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan2010 View Post
    Caught this guy on Newstalk 106, Fr Hogan said that praying to the "holy spirit" wasnt working in relation to getting new vocations , maybe he hasnt considered "god" is punishing the Irish church, could it not be God's plan?

    it must be gas at their planning meetings "so whats your proposal to increase vocations?".... "how about a bit of an old pray?"....annywaay


    So whats the future with 75% less priests in 20 years, Skype on a big screen? Holographic priests to say mass? will they start sourcing priests from Africa which could introduce a new cycle of abusive or sexually active priests given that they are not adverse to cover ups over there?



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    Quote Originally Posted by IbrahaimMohamad View Post
    It's very difficult for a lad who is not obsessed in burying the lad in a felleow male to admit that there is no virtue in celebacy!


    So Ibrahim reveals himself as a troll!

    Whatever one might say about the aforementioned Padre, he at least wears his heart on his sleeve. And he is right about a changing Church, even if not about a 'crisis'. The truth is that the world is changing. The new "Church" will be led by the so called 'laity'.

    Similarly politics will be so led.

    Welcome to the new world!
    Heaven and Earth Meet in the Human Heart!

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    Fr. Hogan has identified the problem himself - people are finally starting to realise that praying is about as useless as crossing fingers, touching wood or rubbing lucky stones.
    Redacted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan2010 View Post
    it must be gas at their planning meetings "so whats your proposal to increase vocations?".... "how about a bit of an old pray?"....annywaay
    That's funny alright. it is interesting to see more and more priests coming to 1st world (and 2nd world) countries from underdeveloped countries. Sure, it's only a matter of time before those same countries see a drop in the number of seminarians and then what happens? But that could take 50 years or more....so for now, it's back to the prayers for the Irish bishops.

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    One mortal man fails to see Gods plan.. wow.. there's a shock. Are you sure your not taking what he said out of context?
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