Bare with me here folks, this is more of a "thinking aloud" thread rather that me trying to make a point. Just seeing if anyone could point me in the direction of more information about this.
Anyway, I've an interest in peoples "identities", Irish ones naturally are a big draw for me but while browsing around YouTube I was reminded about the Irish identity that was (?) largely created by either Irish people abroad or just people abroad, you know, the fighting Irish type, the hard nosed, warrior type. It all revolves around being "tough" with little else except a homely looking maiden (Hiberina) stroking a harp somewhere and she's what you need to fight for. Looking around at American Civil War stories but Irish Confederate gangs or Union troops, Irish born British soldiers all over the globe, WWI posters aimed at an Irish audience (at home and abroad) etc. This identity seems in stark contrast to the downtrodden, discriminated Irishman, isolationist (pre war USA style) the Gaelic Farmer/Volkish identity which was the identity pushed by the Nationalist movement later on and which to some degree still is the one that we'd more readily associate with Ireland
Now, I know right off the bat me posting this means some people will play the man, not the ball. I'm not looking for an argument, political point scoring, fukk da ra etc I'm not saying one is great and the other isn't. Both seemed deeply flawed and shallow to me. But I'm just wondering if anyone has anything to add, was there other periods where some other agenda was pushed? How do both these sorts of identities affect the people in how they see themselves and their country?
again, sorry, it's a bit here and there and a bit bare on the sort of indepth anayalsis that I'd like, but just thinking a loud.