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    Assisted suicide no, Abortion yes.

    So the gutless one has decided that he'll allow for the murder of unborn babies if the mother is suicidal etc but at the same time refuses to allow terminally ill people, in immense pain, be assisted to end their suffering.

    What is it with FG that they insist on inflicting the most pain on the most vulnerable in society?


    Kenny will not legislate for assisted suicide - Political News | Irish & International Politics | The Irish Times - Wed, May 29, 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr.Ted Crilly View Post
    Assisted suicide no, Abortion yes.

    So the gutless one has decided that he'll allow for the murder of unborn babies if the mother is suicidal etc but at the same time refuses to allow terminally ill people, in immense pain, be assisted to end their suffering.

    What is it with FG that they insist on inflicting the most pain on the most vulnerable in society?


    Kenny will not legislate for assisted suicide - Political News | Irish & International Politics | The Irish Times - Wed, May 29, 2013
    Can you imagine the reaction at the FG parliamentary party meeting were EK to say he would propose legislation to allow assisted-suicide, once he had guided abortion legislation thru' the Dail?!

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    Could be an interesting new nickname on the political cards. 'Both Barrels Kenny'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr.Ted Crilly View Post
    Assisted suicide no, Abortion yes.

    So the gutless one has decided that he'll allow for the murder of unborn babies if the mother is suicidal etc but at the same time refuses to allow terminally ill people, in immense pain, be assisted to end their suffering.

    What is it with FG that they insist on inflicting the most pain on the most vulnerable in society?


    Kenny will not legislate for assisted suicide - Political News | Irish & International Politics | The Irish Times - Wed, May 29, 2013
    Do you really think there would be popular support in Ireland for legislating for assisted suicide?
    There is no Keyser Soze

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramps View Post
    Can you imagine the reaction at the FG parliamentary party meeting were EK to say he would propose legislation to allow assisted-suicide, once he had guided abortion legislation thru' the Dail?!


    There is nothing stopping him from doing so right now.

    Just think about it.

    Laws brought in to say:

    1. That if you are terminally ill and suicidal, you can get someone to give you a hand with killing yourself, the State won't mind.

    2. That if you are pregnant and suicidal and would like your baby killed, the State will do the job for you.


    Kenny will legislate for Scenario 2, but not for Scenario 1.

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    I think it's both fair and compassionate to allow assited suicide where someone is terminally ill and clearly in distress, I mean we do put down other sentient creatures such as the family pet when they are in such conditions (I'm not trying to equate a dog or cat with a human so don't jump down my throat).

    I also think the 'x' case should be implemented (although threat of suicide is still dubious grounds for abortion to me but if the people so wish it).

    However abortion on demand and assisted suicide on demand should never be allowed on the basis that they are regressive policies.
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    I'm for everything, including free beer for babies and meth for OAP's.....
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    Our lives are our own. Unless others depend on us financially, we should have complete sovereignty over whether we live or die. If quality of life and independent living are not possible, then I would not want to live. Give this poor woman what she wants. We treat our pets with more humanity than we treat human beings who are suffering terminal illnesses.

    No doubt the Church is again at the forefront of opposition to euthanasia as with abortion and gay marriage. But given the Church's long history of hypocrisy on the question of "thou shalt not kill" e.g. the Inquisition, calling Crusades in the Middle East/against European 'heretics' like the Cathars, and that the Vatican only abolished capital punishment around the 1950's, I hardly think it's in any position to oppose euthanasia with a straight face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulp View Post
    Do you really think there would be popular support in Ireland for legislating for assisted suicide?
    There ought to be - the issue is more clear-cut than that of abortion.
    Repeal the 27th.

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