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    Default Gay marriage will lead to euthinasia and reduction in the age of consent.

    Yes, you've guessed it, Paisley's son, has said 'You know, society isn’t God. God has his ways for people to live their life and if you stray outside those boundaries, ultimately you impact on how society is formed'.

    There are several unionists on p.ie, most of them fantastic contributors to this forum, therefore this question goes out to them. Does the rhetoric of the largest unionist party represent you in this instance? I have enough faith in most posters that it doesn't. Don't be afraid to speak up though as he told Christian TV 'that I don’t hate them', 'them' referring to people who disagree with him. Although he did speak of 'hate' back in 2007 when he said the poofs were destroying our society, claiming:

    'I am pretty repulsed by gay and lesbianism. I think it is wrong. I think that those people harm themselves and – without caring about it – harm society', that doesn’t mean to say that I hate them. I mean, I hate what they do.”

    Although Paisley Jr. has obviously been a regular at his father's church, he revealed he has also been attending another church, the Elim Church (A Free-State sect at that). His new church believes 'The Bible, as originally given, to be without error, the fully inspired and infallible Word of God and the supreme and final authority in all matters of faith and conduct'.

    To conclude his interview he said:

    'I think the huge and significant change that the Government is pursuing with regards to marriage is significantly damaging and I think that is a challenge which goes right to the heart of society...I think that we’re going to see other challenges; I think we are going to see a very decisive attempt over the years ahead to reduce the age of consent for sexual relations – again, that’s an attack on society.

    'I think that will flow from this change to the marriage law. I think there’s going to be another attempt to try and introduce euthanasia in the United Kingdom; another attack on society'.


    He saves the best for last though, Paisley feels the legalisation of 'gay marriage' will lead to fewer 'straight marriages', bizarrely claiming 'Since same-sex marriages were introduced in Portugal, Spain and the Netherlands, mixed sex mariages have decreased quite considerably, indeed by tens and tens of thousands, the facts are clear'.

    I only wish the facts around the sky-fairy he bases all his ignorant assumptions were as clear, however, I digress.

    He was immediately called out by Yvette Cooper, the shadow minister for equalities. She rebuked his conclusion by stating:

    'I think he would struggle to find a causal connection between the idea that some gay and lesbian couples are now able to get married has somehow meant the heterosexual couples are running away from the church door or registry office'.

    He probably forgot to mention the fact marriages have been declining before these European countries allowed the fruits to marry. He also claimed 'Most people in Northern Ireland find homosexual relationships offensive and indeed obnoxious'. Is this true, is NI as homophobic as Paisley claims you and I are?

    Gay marriage part of wider attack on society - Ian Paisley - Regional - Belfast Newsletter

    Ian Paisley Jr says he has ‘grown up’ over anti-gay views - PinkNews.co.uk

    Gay marriage part of wider attack on society - Ian Paisley - Regional - Belfast Newsletter

    DUP hits at Trimble adviser's gay marriage | UK news | The Guardian

    The first link is the relevant one to the OP, the others are merely for reference and links.
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    Paislet jnr has more in common with the other voodoo specialists who were at work in Woolwich that he does with the more normal members of society.
    The faults of the burglar are the qualities of the financier. - George Bernard Shaw.

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    I think there are both religious and general society views on marriage in Northern Ireland that see it as between man and woman only. I don't see that as homophobic though regardless of any personal opinion on it (I don't care if gays marry or not). There are some religious zealots on the matter but I think they're a minority but a very vocal minority so you hear about them more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Mc Larnon View Post
    Paislet jnr has more in common with the other voodoo specialists who were at work in Woolwich that he does with the more normal members of society.
    A Shinner trying to ridicule others about similarities to bloodthirsty fanatics butchering off-duty soldiers in cold blood is remarkable. Ffs!

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    The vocal minority calling for a change to the gender qualifications on marriage need to be faced down - well done Ian Og
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtyisBack View Post
    The vocal minority calling for a change to the gender qualifications on marriage need to be faced down - well done Ian Og
    There's a vocal minority on either side of the debate and a big "couldn't care less" majority in Northern Ireland. I don't think Paisley is right to say "most people in Northern Ireland" when referring to those against gay marriage.

    However he was on QT the other night where the main lobbyist for gay marriage has a record of seeking lowering the age of consent for gay sex to minors as young as 14. So in some respects his statements are not without some foundation.

    You should also watch last week's Nolan TV show to see the gay lobby in action. They made Jim Allister look reasonable!

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    You know what they say about the loudest Nay Sayers.Paul Berry , and , Jeff hasn't been proven yet for ordering gay movies in london, and Rev McCrea lol, he's as bent as a tyre. Is Lady Robinson still window licking ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtyisBack View Post
    The vocal minority calling for a change to the gender qualifications on marriage need to be faced down - well done Ian Og
    Still listening to the men in frocks Arty? You'll find it's you and the geriatric posse that still hang on every word of the foreign catholic priests as they preach to the empty pews right across the island. The catholic church has managed to embarrass itself into the pathetic situation, the once powerful institution, it is in today. Even Enda pulled the embassy. It's 2013, marriage was alive and kicking before your book was dictated from above.
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    Progress on this issue is inevitable. People like Paisley Jr. will be the ones we play clips of to future generations when we want to shock them with how backward some people used to be.
    Repeal the 27th.

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    Does Ian Og partake of the divil's buttermilk?

    Those are not the ramblings of a coherent man

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