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    Default EU set to ban hand rolling tobacco.

    Apparently, the EU have legislation in train to ban menthol and vanilla flavoured cigarettes and hand rolling tobacco.
    Heard this on the Late Debate at the start of anti-smoking segment, just after the Shatter debacle segment.

    EUROPA - PRESS RELEASES - Press Release - Questions and answers: Towards a new EU law on Tobacco Products

    What is the main content of the revision?

    The proposal foresees major revisions of the current Directive. It addresses in particular the following areas and provisions:

    Ingredients: A harmonised electronic reporting format for ingredients and emissions will be introduced. The proposal foresees a prohibition for cigarettes, roll your own (RYO) tobacco and smokeless tobacco products with characterising flavours and a prohibition of products with additives which increase its toxicity and addictiveness.
    See also: Taoiseach holds formal talks with tobacco industry - Irish News, World News & More | The Irish Times - Thu, May 23, 2013

    However, the industry figures also called on the Government to reject proposals in a draft EU tobacco directive to ban menthol and roll-your-own products.
    A brilliant idea.
    What a brilliant idea, force those who smoke hand rolling tobacco (which contains no additives) to smoke ready-made cigarettes (which are full of additives).

    Ready-made cigarettes are much more expensive than rolling tobacco.
    Ready-made cigarettes contain dozens of added chemicals which are known to be carcinogenic in large* doses, rolling tobacco do not contain these chemicals.
    Ready-made cigarettes have a filter which is not biodegradable so is a long term litter/pollutant, particularly as the filter will also contain chemicals from the tobacco.

    On a personal level, the smell and taste of a ready-made cigarette is foul and bitter with no difference between brands. Rolling tobacco smells of tobacco, not chemicals. Some have a pleasant smell from the smoke, some not pleasant but it doesn't stink.

    *large in toxicological terms.
    The enemy of my enemy is the enemy of my enemy. EU Army coming to be, the feckin' conspiracy nuts on Lisbon were right on this one.

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    These mofos think there is no limits to their power. To even consider something like that is an outrage.
    Faoi mhóid bheith saor

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    From my cold, dead, yellowing hands.

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    I am surprised they haven't sorted the "proper way to wipe your ass" directive yet.

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    Rolling tobacco is neither cool nor sexy. There's less branding, more fiddliness, it's all a bit DIY and it's much more likely to stain your fingers to something not dissimiliar to jaundice.

    In short, rolling tobacco is the preserve of hardened smokers rather than of prospective r new smokers.

    Surely it'd make sense to ban packaged cigarettes and keep rolling tobacco for the addicts.

    A little bit more seriously; banning rolling tobacco within the EU will just give more incentive to smugglers to up their game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCitizen View Post
    From my cold, dead, yellowing hands.
    Excellent
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    Quote Originally Posted by myksav View Post
    Apparently, the EU have legislation in train to ban menthol and vanilla flavoured cigarettes and hand rolling tobacco.
    Heard this on the Late Debate at the start of anti-smoking segment, just after the Shatter debacle segment.

    EUROPA - PRESS RELEASES - Press Release - Questions and answers: Towards a new EU law on Tobacco Products



    See also: Taoiseach holds formal talks with tobacco industry - Irish News, World News & More | The Irish Times - Thu, May 23, 2013



    A brilliant idea.
    What a brilliant idea, force those who smoke hand rolling tobacco (which contains no additives) to smoke ready-made cigarettes (which are full of additives).

    Ready-made cigarettes are much more expensive than rolling tobacco.
    Ready-made cigarettes contain dozens of added chemicals which are known to be carcinogenic in large* doses, rolling tobacco do not contain these chemicals.
    Ready-made cigarettes have a filter which is not biodegradable so is a long term litter/pollutant, particularly as the filter will also contain chemicals from the tobacco.

    On a personal level, the smell and taste of a ready-made cigarette is foul and bitter with no difference between brands. Rolling tobacco smells of tobacco, not chemicals. Some have a pleasant smell from the smoke, some not pleasant but it doesn't stink.

    *large in toxicological terms.
    Bet ya Enda will use it as a pretext to raising tax on these products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCitizen View Post
    From my cold, dead, yellowing hands.
    If they mess with your baccy a chara, will you set Garryowen on them? I hope he rips those bureaucrats big, sore new ones.

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    That is outrageous but hilarious.

    Look at the (E)U-Turn jst pulled with regard to the Olive Oil, can't see it happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benroe View Post
    Bet ya Enda will use it as a pretext to raising tax on these products.
    Very few paying E19.50 for 50 grams.
    A tenner a pop on the streets,at the markets and in the housing estates.

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