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    Default Single mother forced to borrow from moneylender to pay fine for not having licence for dog she never had.

    Single mother fears going to jail over dog she says she never had - Independent.ie

    Mary Boyle said that she borrowed 500 from a moneylender because of her fear of being jailed for not paying the fine.
    However Louth County Council dog warden Padraig McKeown has responded by saying anyone in a similar situation would have ample opportunity to prove a dog spotted on their property didn't belong to them.

    'I won't comment on individual cases, however, it is not up to me to prove whether someone has a dog. If someone genuinely didn't have a dog, they have plenty of opportunities in front of a judge to state their case, or at an appeal afterwards,' he told the Drogheda Independent.
    Surely, this must be a violation of the presumption of innocence. Why was she not believed when she said that the dog wasn't hers?

    The issue of moneylending is connected to this case. She is in serious debt. Why doesn't the Government just ban the charging of excessive interest on loans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcameron View Post
    Single mother fears going to jail over dog she says she never had - Independent.ie

    Mary Boyle said that she borrowed €500 from a moneylender because of her fear of being jailed for not paying the fine.


    Surely, this must be a violation of the presumption of innocence. Why was she not believed when she said that the dog wasn't hers?

    The issue of moneylending is connected to this case. She is in serious debt. Why doesn't the Government just ban the charging of excessive interest on loans?
    Just look at the draconian Gestapo laws that the FFger's and "labour" voted in for the tax on the family home and you can see the same mind set at work in the council. The fascist scum government is charging excessive "tax penalties" for the poor who will be unable to meet the extortion demanded by the rackateers in Dail for LPT ! Why would you expect leniency for the above victim of the state?

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    No matter how desperate things are

    DO NOT BORROW FROM MONEYLENDERS EVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcameron View Post
    Surely, this must be a violation of the presumption of innocence. Why was she not believed when she said that the dog wasn't hers?
    Because section 2(2) of the Control of Dogs Act provides that there is a presumption, understandably, that the person who occupies property where the dog is found is the owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by venusian View Post
    Just look at the draconian Gestapo laws that the FFger's and "labour" voted in for the tax on the family home and you can see the same mind set at work in the council. The fascist scum government is charging excessive "tax penalties" for the poor who will be unable to meet the extortion demanded by the rackateers in Dail for LPT ! Why would you expect leniency for the above victim of the state?
    Well done for completely changing the subject at the second post.

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    I hope they found a decent home for the dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewGoldDream View Post
    Because section 2(2) of the Control of Dogs Act provides that there is a presumption, understandably, that the person who occupies property where the dog is found is the owner.
    So why didn't the dog warden visit her and ask her if the dog was hers?

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    she's too compliant for her own good, she should have just told them to eff off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcameron View Post
    So why didn't the dog warden visit her and ask her if the dog was hers?
    Because the law says he doesn't have to. There is a presumption, as there is in many areas - for example a Doctor who takes a blood sample in drink driving is presumed to have sufficient qualifications so they don't have to attend every District Court to go through their qualifications again and agin. It would be impossible to prove ownership of a dog in very many situations, so can understand why it exists. The presumption could have been overturned had she gone to Court and given evidence, but unfortunately she says she got the date wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewGoldDream View Post
    Because section 2(2) of the Control of Dogs Act provides that there is a presumption, understandably, that the person who occupies property where the dog is found is the owner.
    Am I misreading the article or is there nothing in it that says a dog was found on her property?
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