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    Default Neutral Sweden's aid to Nazi war effort

    Much is said lately about Irish neutrality during WW2. The Times recently said our policy was shameful and showed “indifference to the evils of Nazism”. Lost in these comments is the fact that Ireland was far from being the only neutral country. And while neutral Ireland quietly helped the British and US by ignoring overflights and allowing captured British airmen to 'escape' to the north, other neutral nations gave far more substantial help to the Nazis.

    Sweden remained officially neutral throughout the war. Yet they were the source of most of Nazi germany's iron ore and high grade steel used to make weapons. Sweden shipped tens of millions of tonnes of iron to Germany during the war - and munitions production would have stopped without this supply. They also supplied specialist machine tools and ball bearings. 37% of all Swedish exports during these years went to Germany.

    Sweden also allowed German troops to transit Sweden between Norway and the Finnish front, in direct breach of their neutrality.

    Sweden, like everyone else during that dreadful time, made compromises. They helped when they could - saving all Denmark's Jews, for example, in an audacious secret evacuation.

    Every discussion of the Irish policy of neutrality ignores the context of the times, the fact that we were very limited in our options, and that others were forced to compromise more than we did. Irish neutrality was not shameful.

    Denigrating neutrality during second World War has become fashionable - Irish News, World News & More | The Irish Times - Sat, May 11, 2013

    Transit of German troops through Finland and Sweden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Swedish iron mining during World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Yeah and some moronic members of your party want to introduce the infamous "Swedish Model"!

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    When I lived in England I never ceased to be amazed about how many English people knew about Ireland re-fueling the UBoats at various ports here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Urko View Post
    Yeah and some moronic members of your party want to introduce the infamous "Swedish Model"!
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    They actually refused the allies rights to use their territory to assist their Norwegian neighbours! And carried out enforced sterilisation campaigns on the SAmmi and mentally ill or intellectual disabled people upto the 1970s (AFAIK).
    Also proposed internment camps for people with HIV and have anti-drugs penalties which see a young teenager caught with a joint have a criminal record for life!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levellers View Post
    When I lived in England I never ceased to be amazed about how many English people knew about Ireland re-fueling the UBoats at various ports here.
    Robert Fisk: German U-boats refuelled in Ireland? Surely not - Robert Fisk - Commentators - The Independent

    That never happened. We didn't have any fuel so couldn't have done it even if we wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossy Heneberry View Post
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    You can't pay them!

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    Kudos Seabhcan, A couple of our revisionist posters have been getting giddy lately. This thread is an injection of reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Urko View Post
    T And carried out enforced sterilisation campaigns on the SAmmi and mentally ill or intellectual disabled people upto the 1970s (AFAIK).
    The sterilisation campaigns were not directed against the Sami. Racism played at most a very minor role in them.
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    Sweden was warned of invasion if it didn't comply, and there is no doubt they would have shared the fate of their Nordic neighbours had they refused. They were landlocked so the Royal Navy couldn't ride to the rescue. The German fleet were still a potent force in the Baltic sea. It's very easy to judge when you don't have millions of soldiers and thousands of powerful tanks and the best airforce on earth a short stretch of water away. Sweden probably saved its Jews by going along with this lesser of two evils.
    Fair and Balanced

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